mwop, So, I saw this article on fat controllers in Laravel in my feed today:
And was reminded that the Zend Framework community was having this same discussion in - checks notes - 2010:
http://www.mooduino.co.uk/2010/09/fat-models-and-thin-controllers-with.html?m=1
(I'm pretty sure Java experienced this, too, in the early '00s.)
It's like we, as programmers, are incapable of learning from our own field. Haven't seen a problem before? Brand new problem! Despite it being present for literally the history of the field.