TonyStark,
@TonyStark@progressivecafe.social avatar

It's kind of a fill in the blank with Joe Manchin: "dealing blow to Dems ________ good climate policy, infrastructure policy, etc"

Whatever he decides to do it will be something that benefits him financially in both the short and long term.

If he runs as a third party candidate, his policies are more Republican than Democratic and he will draw more Republican votes than Democratic votes.

Joe Manchin won't seek reelection in 2024, dealing blow to Dems' Senate map:
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/11/09/congress/manchin-retires-senate-00126411

Heimdall,
@Heimdall@progressivecafe.social avatar

@TonyStark If he had some decency, he’d do a bunch of good stuff on his way out, but he isn’t so he won’t.

barney,
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@TonyStark

One thing is certain: No Labels is nothing more than a Republican Party dirty trick. Its purpose is to put Trump in the White House and end our democracy forever.

I would have thought, as you do, that Manchin's candidacy would help Biden. But most pollsters seem to think it would help Trump. Here's a good analysis.

My fear is that No Labels will nominate Andrew Yang, who would likely be an even stronger ally for Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/20/no-labels-trump-biden/

TonyStark,
@TonyStark@progressivecafe.social avatar

@barney There’s probably 25 different opinions on that and few match.
Not that I’m big on polls and even that article from Blake admits halfway through that most people who say they’re going to vote 3rd party don’t.

The biggest complaint about Biden is old. Manchin is 76. After that, further right won’t be drawing too many Democrats.

watergirl,

@barney @TonyStark Hope you’re right! 🤞

TonyStark,
@TonyStark@progressivecafe.social avatar

@barney @watergirl I’m concerned about 3rd party stuff but not Joe Manchin running. Anything complaint-wise about Biden, Manchin is worse.

SpiderMan,
@SpiderMan@progressivecafe.social avatar

@TonyStark He was in danger of losing his seat so…he bravely ran away.

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