StillIRise1963,
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The former criminal president fucked up the minds of all types of people in this nation. On both sides, some now truly think the position of president is that of a dictator, ascribing much more power to the office than it actually carries to start and to stop things all over the world.

Aviva_Gary,
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@StillIRise1963 I mean if you want to kill/birth an idea the best way is to simply do it (plant it) and then let it run...

So in this case he was trying to make it a thing (Dictorial Pres powers) and now people believe that is what it is!

StillIRise1963,
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@Aviva_Gary Yep. That's exactly what's happened. It's fucking sad to see.

Urban_Hermit,
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@StillIRise1963 the office of presidency in the US is chief diplomat to the world. Trump was particularly bad at that, as he has no empathy, admires dictator/strong men types, and he didn't realize that the US as the more powerful nation might need to compromise more in a relationship with other nations.

More importantly, a US president is supposed to have zero law making power. Signing statements (under Bush Jr) and executive orders are supposed to be interpretive guidance on existing laws.

Skyye,
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@StillIRise1963 I know people are stupid AF but I don’t think they’re THAT stupid.

StillIRise1963,
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@Skyye They absolutely are. His gaslighting about this is working on people talking over here. They seem to believe a president has to power to unilaterally end treaties, relationships, and agreements just like a dictator. Where did they learn this falsehood?

Skyye,
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@StillIRise1963 I think you have to make a distinction between Russian disinformation and comments by actual Americans. Russian disinformation gives the appearance of stupidity and causes acceptance/resignation by real Americans.

StillIRise1963,
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@Skyye I actually don't. I'm not talking about the process.

Skyye,
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@StillIRise1963 I’m saying the supposed Americans professing Trump’s dictatorial abilities are not actual Americans. They are Russian trolls.

StillIRise1963,
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@Skyye Some are. Some aren't.

Skyye,
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@StillIRise1963 If you think what they’re saying sounds off the wall, they’re Russian trolls.

StillIRise1963,
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@Skyye Then, stop talking.

Skyye,
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@StillIRise1963 I’m actually on your side. Trying to explain how Russians promote “perception is reality” but whatever. Starting to doubt your motives, though.

StillIRise1963,
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@Skyye Look, that kind of statement basically means you're some kind of asshole. I'd rather not know you. So, go be annoying with people like yourself.

MisuseCase,
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@StillIRise1963 Both America’s boosters and its detractors also have an outsized idea of America’s power over other countries/foreign actors and their behavior, rather than understanding that these foreign parties have motivations and agency that may have little if any relationship to America.

Also some people will cheer any group that’s anti-America without comprehending that they may not be such good guys.

Jestbill,
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@MisuseCase @StillIRise1963 My take is that most of what you are responding to is said in bad faith. It sounds more like "Have you stopped beating your wife?" than reasoned argument.

StillIRise1963,
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@Jestbill What are you saying? Where is the bad faith? Who are you talking about?
@MisuseCase

Jestbill,
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@StillIRise1963 @MisuseCase I mean the criticism of Biden for not fixing the situation in Israel.

I mean those who deliberately confuse Israel as a nation and Jews as an ethnic identity. Anything said in reply sounds weak.

It's just sophistry.

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