18+ chiasm,
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Honestly, every time I see a posting about how someone in the US can't vote for Biden because he supports genocide, I lose my s*** a little more.

"Sending a message by refusing to vote" DOES NOT WORK in this country!! What country DOES it work in?

(obv voting for the GOP in an attempt to send a message of support for Palestine is so ridiculous I wouldn't accuse of anyone of doing it, so I assume they mean they are not voting in the upcoming Pres election.)

18+ Sh4d0w_H34rt, (edited )
@Sh4d0w_H34rt@mstdn.social avatar

@chiasm how about you get back to those potential voters with candidates worth voting for. You know candidates that's aren't extensively bribed firmly in the pockets of corporations and the rich, candidates that represent the people in reality not in just in name. Get back to us when we have a democracy rather than an oligarchy. Until then cut the vote shaming bullshit.

18+ bhahne,
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@chiasm It's a tricky situation. One thing I try to keep in mind is that Palestinian people in the U.S. are often in very deep grief and suffering because many have seen dozens of family members killed. So any conversation that asserts they "have to vote for Biden" is likely to just increase that suffering regardless of the argument's accuracy.

bhahne,
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@chiasm Another thought is that this is potentially the same game of chicken that the Christian Right has played, quite successfully, with the GOP for at least 20 years: "give us what we want or no votes for you this cycle". A movement that can successfully execute on that threat establishes credibility for future election cycles.

The problem here is that if that threat is carried out by the left this cycle, there won't be a next cycle because we won't have a democracy left.

bhahne,
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@chiasm My big concern is that too many on the left are now falling victim to standard purity-war thinking - "I refuse to vote for this impure candidate no matter what the consequences" rather than viewing a vote for Biden as a form of harm reduction.

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