eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

"elon destroyed twitter", come to fedi

"reddit CEO sold out reddit communities", come to fedi

"tumblr CEO is heading transphobic harassment campaign", come to fedi

idk man i just feel like shit like this is gonna keep happening. and shit will go down on fedi too. difference is on fedi you can move when some little tyrant gets their head too far stuck up their own ass

eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

if youre gonna yell at someone who mentioned me in this thread can you please at least remove my @

thank you

eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

if you want to reply to this with some flavor of "but there's <bad thing> on fedi" then please refer to "shit will go down on fedi too" from my original post

yeah, there's bad stuff on fedi. but it's not the people who own fedi imposing the bad stuff on everyone else on fedi, cause nobody owns fedi. come on. you're already on here, you should know this stuff by now

aeva,
@aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@eniko Look, some clout chaser I perceive as being super popular parroted something scathingly negative they heard 3rd hand about [nuanced topic], and social factors render me incapable of applying any critical thinking skills here at all. I'm not the one who is wrong here,

masukomi,
@masukomi@connectified.com avatar

@eniko better yet, you can set up your own tiny instance for you and people you care about. No geekery required thanks to folks like masto.host

It’s lovely to be able to defederate from and source of vileness without having to ask an admin and hope they agree.

bgrinter,
@bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@eniko @lisamelton
Isn’t tumblr CEO also Wordpress CEO?

This will be awkward

lisamelton,
@lisamelton@mastodon.social avatar
bgrinter,
@bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@lisamelton @eniko

On the other hand he’s not getting a cent from me for the many sites I host myself and run…

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lisamelton,
@lisamelton@mastodon.social avatar

@bgrinter Exactly. Hosted websites are very different from the commercial site.

@eniko

bgrinter,
@bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@lisamelton @eniko diverse range of people doing good work at WP like Josepha Haden. Will be interested to see the outcome of this

lisamelton,
@lisamelton@mastodon.social avatar

@bgrinter Here's hoping she's not a TERF like Matt.

@eniko

project1enigma,
@project1enigma@wandering.shop avatar

@eniko Racism and antisemitism on Fedi... And now?

eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

@project1enigma see "shit will go down on fedi too"

AliceVie,
@AliceVie@peoplemaking.games avatar

@eniko Hey, I wrote almost exactly this earlier. Moving accounts and staying on the network is so unbelievably useful. Everyone who followed you before can continue to do so without needing to create an account on yet another centralized social site. They stay where they're happy, and still get to follow you at your new location.

jay,
@jay@toot.zerojay.com avatar

@eniko Haven't heard about the Tumblr CEO thing, is there somewhere I can read more about it?

eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar
jay,
@jay@toot.zerojay.com avatar

@eniko I haven't been on fedi recently, so I appreciate it!

vozercozer,
@vozercozer@wetdry.world avatar

@eniko wait wtfs going on with tumblr?

Owlor,
@Owlor@meow.social avatar

@vozercozer I'mma try to summarize as best as I can from what I saw unfold. Basically, tumblr has had an issue for a while now where trans womens pictures and accounts are reported as explicit and automatically moderated. It doesn't matter if it's nudity within TOS or fully-clothed transition timelines.

One trans woman was hit especially hard by tumblrs moderation system, like they nuked her entire account and flagged all her pictures as being in violation of TOS, down to random innocent memes.

The CEO comes out with this statement where he a) they/them her and b) claim that she was banned for violently threatening the staff.

That's not what they said she was being banned for initially and there's not really any evidence for that apart from some over the top "I hope you die"-type statements clearly said in anger.

Several other trans women have gotten their accounts just nuked for criticizing the CEO about this and he's also crept into just random peoples DMs to try and defend himself, really just throwing his weight around.

Owlor,
@Owlor@meow.social avatar

@vozercozer Oh yeah, and the CEO also threatened to call the cops on her. Like, it's hard to properly convey just how ridiculous the situation is and just how petty the CEO is being.

holgerschurig,

@Owlor @vozercozer You can be pro-LGBTQ and still call authorities on "You should die" messages.

First, we shouldn't let this kind of "discussion" style creep into our interactions.

Second, in real life such statements aren't okay, too. So why should one have to accept such harassment in internet?

Third, the chance that some mob goes into virtual lynch mode ("shit storm") is non-negligible. Some people don't act rational, some even don't want to. They want to be emotionally engaged. And in communication forms without voice tone, face mimics, body language it is much easier to get into "flame war" mode anyway. So your "x should die" stirs up their hatred level even more, because they feel encouraged ("others think the same").

So don't let us trod down such a path and deem "you should die" to be generally acceptable. And to criticize people that try to defend against such verbal violence as being in error. Never forget that one can be in grave error (e.g. by power misuse due to banning LGBTQ people for being just that) and right in other matters. No one is ever fully correct or fully in error.

Here in Germany political extremist people write such "you should die" type often to opponents, especially the right writes this. But ... also the real-life attacks increase. Several times it eas linked to internet chats/forums where such messages were acceptable. But ... the tone in internet influences thinking and violence, influences what people think is acceptable (it's a loop). There are even peer-reviewed studies on this.

So no, there is no excuse for people using such veiled threads. And if people are enraged (even rightfully!) ... they should learn other methods to deal with their anger and too high a level of Adrenalin.

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