jwz,
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How to make the upcoming Neuromancer adaptation not suck:

Go full Lisa Frankenstein, e.g. 80s as understood by TikTok kids.
Barbiemancer.
Muppets.
Jodorowsky's Dune's TRON.

I really think those are your only options.

I joked earlier that I hope...
https://jwz.org/b/ykNq

cstross, (edited )
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@jwz

Neuromancer was published in July 1984. It would have been accepted for publication 12 months earlier, so written in 1981-82.

That was before analog cellphone service started, never mind GSM. Neuromancer predates the CD, the end of the USSR, the Space Shuttle flying (and exploding), Diet Coke, TCP/IP, Wifi, the PC AT, the Apple Macintosh, air bags in cars, the end of leaded gasoline, public recognition of global warming ...

I sing the retrofuturistic fantastic!

cstross,
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@jwz One of these days, I swear, someone will buy the TV rights to the Laundry Files and not realize they start out in 2001, so everyone will be toting iPads and wearing flares and smoking cigarettes in the office.

logickal,
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@cstross @jwz Back when a ‘television screen’ tuned to a ‘dead channel’ meant something, let alone had a color.

cstross,
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@logickal @jwz A 'TV tuned to a dead channel’ STILL means something, but the colour it turns is typically a saturated bright blue, not a greyish static fuzz. (And it's increasingly less meaningful as TVs turn into computer monitors rather than anything with a radio receiver built in.)

kithrup,
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@cstross @logickal @jwz A surprising number of TVs will now generate static. I think it's because the blue screen looks like a windows crash more than no input.

jwz,
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@kithrup @cstross @logickal Even 12 years ago, I had a TV that played an MPEG of static when nothing was plugged into the HDMI port: https://jwz.org/b/yhDB

resuna,
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@jwz @kithrup @cstross @logickal This is what our television shows when it's tuned to a dead channel.

resuna,
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@jwz @kithrup @cstross @logickal I'm honestly surprised it doesn't run advertising.

fschaap,
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@cstross @jwz Also, interestingly, the writing preceded the Bladerunner movie, but was published after. I think Gibson commented on that in an interview some time, but I forgot what he said ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

KatS,
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@fschaap @cstross @jwz Bladerunner came out while he was writing it.

He stated in an interview that he walked out because it was so close to what he was in the process of writing, he didn't want to incorporate somebody else's work into it.

cstross,
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@KatS @fschaap @jwz Yeah, that's an occupational hazard for SF/F writers.

jwz,
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Also why would you bother adapting Neuromancer when Strange Days already exists?

Infoseepage,
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@jwz Just give me The Peripheral S02.

jwz,
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@Infoseepage 100% agree.

janxdevil,
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@jwz why would you do that when Abel Ferreira already did New Rose
Hotel?

jwz,
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@janxdevil Because while New Rose Hotel is a somewhat faithful adaptation, it is an absolutely shit movie, unless your fetish is hours of watching Harvey Keitel cry in a capsule coffin.

kfringe,
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@jwz @janxdevil

First of all, you're underselling just how fucking terrible that movie is. The last half of the fucking thing is literally flashbacks to the first half of the fucking thing. Any sane person would rather watch steam come off a log of hot dog shit than watch that movie twice.

Secondly: Willem Dafoe. It's Willem Dafoe. And Christopher Walken. And you'd by god think they could have made something half watchable, but no.

kfringe,
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@jwz Because Strange Days doesn't feed (or feed from) the AI hype bubble.

steinarb,
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Many nice suggestions here!

charlykuehnast,
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@jwz "80s as understood by TikTok kids" As someone who was a teenager in the 80s I can't even imagine how today's teenagers would envision this decade

brendo,
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@charlykuehnast @jwz Indeed. In the three decades since the 90s, have any of them had a distinctive aesthetic and art? 2010s maybe. By 2019 we had something definable in pop culture, as well as a lot of good music for the first time in a while. If the AI bubble gets big enough, it could help define the 2020s.

jwz,
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@brendo @charlykuehnast We have an ongoing, moderately successful "90s/2000s"-themed dance party called "Why 2K" and I still cannot explain to you what genre that is. The best I can do is, "It's the same top 40 pop-hiphop dreck that Bootie played all the time, but now you get the whole song instead of just 30 seconds of it."

jwz,
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jwz,
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jwz,
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jgilbert,
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@jwz really looking forward to the big dance number mid-way through the show, "Paean for A Razorgirl"

calyxa,
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@jwz the alt text "screenshot" really really doesn't help AT ALL.

jwz,
@jwz@mastodon.social avatar

@calyxa Dear Mastodon HOA, it is a screenshot of the text in the post, and since you don't like that, LMFTFY plonk

acb,
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@jwz I still wish that Chris Cunningham had made the movie adaptation the was threatening to do around 2000.

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