@kabrams i think we can reduce the need for cars a lot (free public transport, more reliable and easier delivery services, more things within walking distance etc) but I don't think anybody can credibility say we can get of vehicles completely. Getting smaller electric cars and smaller alternatives to cars that take up less of room and are cheeper and easier to handle are going to have to be part of the solution.
@ShadowInTheVoid@kabrams
buses and plumber vans (hopefully electric) are gonna be there anyway, no-one (except reactionary demagogues) is saying there won't be /any/ cars at all.
the argument is that, getting around without a car needs to be convenient enough that most ppl choose to do so.
@maybenot@ShadowInTheVoid the point is that people need to stop being so fucking preachy about it because some of us don't have that choice to choose to do so.
bug off, the both of you.
if you want to be preachy about public transit (and I'm a former city bus operator for one of the five largest metropolitan bus systems in the US so when I say that the system is broken and inaccessible I know what I'm talking about) go somewhere else.
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