Edent,
@Edent@mastodon.social avatar

🆕 blog! “.well-known/avatar”

Hot on the heels of a post I wrote 4 years ago, wouldn't it be useful to have a well-known URl for user avatar images? When I sign up to a web service, I don't want to faff around uploading an image to use as my avatar. I want that service to look at my […]

👀 Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/03/well-known-avatar/

byjp,
@byjp@hachyderm.io avatar

@Edent I really like this! Though I’m a huge fan of static sites (being able to serve them via IPFS for caching, sneakernets, and distributed access), so the query parameter part of your proposal would make it impossible to serve on my blog.

Though it’d break the WebFinger parallel, I’d rather have sites look for /.well-known/avatar/<sha256(email)> or similar (the hash to make it marginally harder to scrape indexable static sites for email addresses)

Edent,
@Edent@mastodon.social avatar

@byjp
If you have a static site with only one user, you can return the image regardless of the query string. That was my thinking.

andypiper,
@andypiper@macaw.social avatar

@Edent first of all, I'm admonishing you for use of twitter dot com in your example (it might exist as a domain, but not as a vector of change, progress, or positive outcomes). Secondly, while it "isn't WebFinger because that returns JSON", there's a yes but, one element in there can be a link to the image. Overall though, I like the concept. You have earned ② idea points with this submission.

Edent,
@Edent@mastodon.social avatar

@andypiper haha!
I wrote most of that post in the Before Times™ and should have updated the examples.

Can I cash in these points for fabulous prizes?

andypiper,
@andypiper@macaw.social avatar

@Edent absolutely. It's the same as earning coins on Swarm.

zachleat,
@zachleat@zachleat.com avatar

@Edent you may be interested in this: https://github.com/11ty/api-indieweb-avatar

Doesn’t require a new thing, just gives the favicon image for any URL.

Edent,
@Edent@mastodon.social avatar

@zachleat oh, that is nifty. Ta!

thomas,
@thomas@social.touhey.org avatar

@Edent
Kind of disappointed no one mentioned pavatar, which is this but based on a URL rather than a domain and account name, the same as favicons.
https://github.com/pavatar/pavatar

Edent,
@Edent@mastodon.social avatar

@thomas with the best will in the world, that hasn't seen any updates in a decade. Is anyone using it?

krinkle, (edited )
@krinkle@fosstodon.org avatar

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  • Edent,
    @Edent@mastodon.social avatar

    @krinkle
    Sadly, BIMI is a dead end unless you have thousands of dollars to spare.

    https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/08/dns-esoterica-bimi-svg-in-dns-txt-wtf/

    nogweii,
    @nogweii@nogweii.net avatar

    @Edent Have you heard of the Libravatar project? Doesn't have a complete discovery protocol but it could possibly pair nicely.

    schizanon,
    @schizanon@mas.to avatar

    @Edent how would it differ from https://gravatar.com ?

    revk,
    @revk@toot.me.uk avatar

    @Edent What would be nice is a generic way for me to provide a set of data, including avatar, and possibly contact details, and so on, that I want to make available to some parties, and a means that they can update.

    That way I would never have to tell someone a new avatar, or phone number, or address, or whatever.

    Edent,
    @Edent@mastodon.social avatar

    @revk that's what the .tel TLD was supposed to be for. Put your contact details into DNS and let changes propagate through. That aspect of it never caught on though.

    sldrant,
    @sldrant@mastodon.social avatar

    @Edent I like it when things use gravatar but I've never considered the privacy implications

    sldrant,
    @sldrant@mastodon.social avatar

    @Edent I wonder if giving a well-known url as you sign up is better, then you opt in to using that data rather than anonymous, perhaps even selecting what info you want used, ie perhaps more than just a profile photo.
    I do like that gravatar supports multiple emails though and optional different inages for each, but all under one account. It does expose my email matches another account potentially though, which I may not want to share

    dwm,
    @dwm@mastodon.social avatar

    @Edent I think the idea is cute, but some human factors might make it a bit risky for some users and (services?):

    • A user may wish to ensure a particular service account cannot be tied to their main online identity. If they sign up to Twitter as @MyUsername and also as @anonymousconfessions with two different email addresses at the same domain, they may be deanonymized if the same unique (or otherwise matchable) image is set on both accounts.

    robb,
    @robb@social.lol avatar

    @Edent I really like this idea and it moves away from relying on gravatar.

    Having said that, There is already the h-card format where you can point to an avatar image.

    Edent,
    @Edent@mastodon.social avatar

    @robb
    True. But I'm not sure how I discover a h-card without requesting and then parsing HTML.
    I'm think of this as a way to simplify things.

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