daringfireball,
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gfurry,

@daringfireball, great post! For fun, I tossed it into Chatgpt and prompted it to make some images of the story. Here is what it returned. After 4 images it told me "
Error creating image
I'm unable to generate an image of the scene you described due to our content policy. " and scared me a little lol

havn,
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@daringfireball Can you help me understand something, @gruber?

As an example, say Apple made APIs and processes to let other, serious smart watch makers get (more or less) the same interoperability with the iPhone as the Apple Watch currently has.

How would that make the Apple Watch worse?

(Because I think something like that would make "everyone" happy. It's unfair to say that the only alternative is to let "everyone automatically have access to everything".)

gruber,
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@havn Do you not see how a big part of the Apple Watch experience is software running on the paired iPhone? Software that isn’t and can’t be a sandboxed app. It’s system software. For third-party watches to have all the integration features Apple Watch has with iOS, iOS would need to support something akin to system extensions and device drivers, like a PC or Mac. That is not part of the iPhone brand promise.

havn,
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@gruber I absolutely do not accept the premise that the only two choices are "Today's situation" and "Kernal extensions for everyone!" - like there's absolutely nothing in between.

My sister has an iPhone and a Fitbit, and my wife an iPhone and an Apple Watch. Can you please explain to me how my wife's Apple Watch would become worse if my sister's Fitbit worked better with her phone? Because I honestly don't get it.

gruber,
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@havn I'm not saying it would make Apple Watch worse. It might make her iPhone worse though if Fitbit got to run background processes on iOS to support the same level of integration between phone and watch. And I can't see why Apple should be obligated to do the work.

FormerlyStC,
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@daringfireball Love the typesetting, John.

gruber,
@gruber@mastodon.social avatar

@FormerlyStC Felt good to exercise those muscles.

tambourineman,
@tambourineman@mastodon.cloud avatar

@gruber @FormerlyStC where did you typeset it on? InDesign?

Never seen you do that on Daring Fireball. I hope to see more of them.

gruber,
@gruber@mastodon.social avatar

@tambourineman @FormerlyStC Long ago I was a ninja in QuarkXPress, but moved to InDesign at the tail end of my print design career. ("Career”.) This one I typeset in Pages. I have quibbles about Pages's hyphenation algorithm compared to InDesign’s, but it's remarkably capable overall.

vashbear,
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@daringfireball

I have read your comments on Apple with interest, and while I think you make some good points... I think Cory Doctorow's post here completely answers this argument.

https://pluralistic.net/2024/03/22/reality-distortion-field/

pixelscience,
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@vashbear @daringfireball These arguments are stupid. Don’t like iPhone? Buy another phone.

It’s not Apple’s fault that people chose iOS (and it’s mutant clone, Android) over Blackberry, Symbian, Palm OS, webOS, Windows CE, Windows Mobile, etc.

Whatever

Here’s a list of OSs Doctorow can use TODAY!

dmitriid,
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@pixelscience @vashbear @daringfireball

"Stupid argument" cries a person using the most stupid argument of all: "if you don't like it, don't use it".

You clearly didn't read the article

pixelscience,
@pixelscience@mastodon.social avatar

@dmitriid @vashbear @daringfireball I did. Every word.

> The rejoinder from the Cult of Mac is that those Iphone owners shouldn't own Iphones: if they wanted to exercise property rights over their phones, they shouldn't have bought a phone from Apple. […] it's impossible to square with Tim Cook's insistence that if you want private communications, you must buy an Iphone.

This is stupid. Nobody has to own the iPhone or any phone. Apple is popular because of its practices not despite them

gruber,
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@pixelscience @dmitriid @vashbear iPhone owners have property rights (true) but Apple doesn’t have the right to steer iOS, it’s own creation, the way it sees fit. Got it.

marcintosh, (edited )
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@daringfireball I loved this story so much when they assigned it in high school I stole the textbook. I re-read it often and its point is timeless.

dsilverman,
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@daringfireball There are a couple film adaptations. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G1LE-E_Yn_Q

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