RickiTarr,
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I'm going to start writing all my posts on old English, and daring people to correct my grammar and spelling.

treleanor,
@treleanor@aus.social avatar

@RickiTarr @sister_ratched The modern version seems boringly beige.

Kierkegaanks,
@Kierkegaanks@beige.party avatar

@RickiTarr whoa olde änglish is badass

peterbrown,
@peterbrown@mastodon.scot avatar

@RickiTarr I hadn’t realised how similar Orcadian is to Chaucer

Doric indeed!

fishidwardrobe,
@fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk avatar

@RickiTarr interesting, the meaning appears to have changed too.

Am I right in thinking the older versions are closer to, "he shows me where the good pasture and the clean water is"?

mizblueprint,
@mizblueprint@mastodon.online avatar

@RickiTarr
Seamus Heaney did this marvelous translation. Old English on one page, modern poetic translation on the facing page.

zakalwe,
@zakalwe@plasmatrap.com avatar

@RickiTarr Sorta related: Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song covered in Old Norse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia0vVQnNGcc

TheBreadmonkey,
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@zakalwe @RickiTarr
Just reading through the YouTube comments and it's like you can't even make a ancient Nordic version of a 1970s rock song without a load of people going on about pronunciation these days

katzenberger,
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@RickiTarr "ic pro scêad dihtian mîn stæfcyst hû−hwega hâr Englisc, êac horsc gumðêod st¯ælan t¯ælan mîn stæfcræft"

It took me a while to have that damn monk forget about my time machine, and translate your post.

itty53,
@itty53@beige.party avatar

@RickiTarr

"He sett me ther"

Read in the voice of Nelly.

fmhilton,
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@RickiTarr I'm going for the 'interpretive dance' version.
People want to correct my grammar and spelling can do so, but I don't care.

satsuma,
@satsuma@dice.camp avatar

@RickiTarr I like to tell people that complain about someone saying ‘aksed’ instead of ‘asked’ if they still call a horse a ‘hros’ as it was originally in English.

ccdudley85,
@ccdudley85@mastodon.world avatar

@RickiTarr Exactly. Everything went to crap after 1066.

cpm,
@cpm@spore.social avatar

@RickiTarr
Among reasons -which are legion- that I didn't do well at uni:

friend, grad student of eng lit, gave me a copy of "Fowler's Dictionary (of Modern English Usage)" to 'help' me along in my studies. (I was a ged holder, starting uni at 22)

Wizard Level trolling!

RickiTarr,
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@cpm WHAT LOL

hopeward,
@hopeward@sfba.social avatar

@RickiTarr fedde-verse

partnumber2,
@partnumber2@c.im avatar

@RickiTarr

Leofan men, gecnawað þæt soð is: ðeos worold is on ofste, and hit nealæcð þam ende, and þy hit is on worolde aa swa leng swa wyrse; and swa hit sceal nyde for folces synnan ær Antecristes tocyme yfelian swyþe, and huru hit wyrð þænne egeslic and grimlic wide on worolde. Understandað eac georne þæt deofol þas þeode nu fela geara dwelode to swyþe, and þæt lytle getreowþa wæran mid mannum, þeah hy wel spæcan, and unrihta to fela ricsode on lande. And næs a fela manna þe smeade ymbe þa bote swa georne swa man scolde, ac dæghwamlice man ihte yfel æfter oðrum and unriht rærde and unlaga manege ealles to wide gynd ealle þas þeode.

Translation

Dear people, know the truth. This world is swift and nearing its end. So the longer things go on in this world, the worse they get. So it must needs be, thanks to people's sinning, that things worsen fast before the Antichrist comes and it really gets nasty and horrible throughout the world. Realize this too: that the Devil has been leading this nation off-course for years now, and people have little loyalty left — smooth talkers though they were. Crime and wrong took charge of the land, and there were never many with the zeal needed to plan out a remedy. They just heaped evil on evil day in and day out, breaking laws and wronging their way through this country.

RickiTarr,
@RickiTarr@beige.party avatar

@partnumber2 The one I Prophecied!

WhiteCatTamer,
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@RickiTarr Aside from the -th endings, the KJB is entirely understandable to modern readers. Why rewrite it for the modern bible?

RickiTarr,
@RickiTarr@beige.party avatar

@WhiteCatTamer I believe it was more of a translation issue than understanding it, the newer translations are supposed to be closer to the Hebrew and Greek, although the thing with translations is you're always going to have some of the bias of the translator.

WhiteCatTamer,
@WhiteCatTamer@mastodon.online avatar

@RickiTarr Fair enough.

Side note: “God’s Secretaries” is a great book on the making of the KJB, if anyone’s interested in that.

Second side note: Bart Erham is a great author to look into for those laypeople interested in Biblical studies (didn’t write the above book but just in general).

coffeepine,
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@RickiTarr Honestly, "In the sted of pastur he sett me ther" sounds like a nice euphemism for rad open air sex.

:awesome:

TLB73,
@TLB73@topspicy.social avatar

@RickiTarr
Aww, man that is funny! The year I leave school, they changed that shit.
Literally had no idea.

skribe,
@skribe@aus.social avatar

@RickiTarr just use Quenya, which hasn't changed in 10k years (cos elves be high or something).

FeralRobots,
@FeralRobots@mastodon.social avatar

@RickiTarr when you really want our attention you can lead off with a resounding "Hwaet!"

TheBreadmonkey,
@TheBreadmonkey@beige.party avatar

@RickiTarr

I hate it when the lord gourneths me

elverkonge,
@elverkonge@beige.party avatar

@TheBreadmonkey @RickiTarr I didn't hear you complaining when he norissed you

TheBreadmonkey,
@TheBreadmonkey@beige.party avatar

@elverkonge @RickiTarr

What can I say - a man has needs

elverkonge,
@elverkonge@beige.party avatar

@TheBreadmonkey @RickiTarr we all need fyllyng from time to time, right?

shaknais,
@shaknais@mastodon.social avatar

@RickiTarr Swelc se ġerisene sméae eallwundorum.

levampyre,
@levampyre@chaos.social avatar

@RickiTarr Oh, mach das! Alt Englisch ist sehr nah an Deutsch. Wir Deutschen werden dich also weiterhin verstehen. 😉

todwest,
@todwest@mastodon.world avatar

@RickiTarr Old English isn't really English. It operates with noun morphology instead of verb. Much closer to German than Middle English. Both Middle and Modern English use Scandanavian grammar and syntax. All those pillaging Vikings, dontcha know.

RickiTarr,
@RickiTarr@beige.party avatar

@todwest Language, you hot mess

todwest,
@todwest@mastodon.world avatar

@RickiTarr What's even worse is most of English academia are dead wrong that English is Germanic and they still refuse to acknowledge this.

RickiTarr,
@RickiTarr@beige.party avatar

@todwest FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

todwest,
@todwest@mastodon.world avatar

@RickiTarr I gave up academia for Lent

rjblaskiewicz,
@rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social avatar

@RickiTarr You left out a thorn.

NickGates,
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@RickiTarr I'll respond in Proto Germanic, telling you to talk correctl5

RickiTarr,
@RickiTarr@beige.party avatar

@NickGates NEVER

NickGates,
@NickGates@friendsofdesoto.social avatar

@RickiTarr but then someone will correct me in Proto Indo European

NickGates,
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@RickiTarr there are translation sites if you wanna use Old Englisc

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