atomicpoet,
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If there’s one thing that continues to grind my gears, it’s how Press continuously refer to Twitter as “the Internet”.

I’m sorry, but are you folks aware of what the Internet entails?

mori,
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SaruNinjaDesu,

@atomicpoet According to Ted Stevens (RIP) it's a series of tubes. That's basically it, right? 😆

bkkcitypokey,
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@atomicpoet It’s like how old people say that they thought Facebook and Google is the Internet

atomicpoet,
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To be clear, Twitter should have been a core Internet protocol.

Numerous Twitter co-founders and ex-employees agree with that opinion.

og,
atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@og I reserve judgment until you can use it on more than one server.

og,

@atomicpoet Good point

atomicpoet,
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ActivityPub is not “Twitter”.

Yes, you can use it for microblogging. That is its most popular use—for now.

But it’s not merely a microblogging protocol. It can do much, much more.

olavf,

@atomicpoet ActivityPub is "possibilities"

kikobar,
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@atomicpoet
Could you share some other ideas? - so far I only see different forms of microblogging... or at least uses that I would classify as microblogging (I could be very wrong here).

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@kikobar Take a look at PeerTube or Bookwyrm or Funkwhale.

kikobar,
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@atomicpoet will do. Thanks!

evan,
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@atomicpoet Absolutely!

mark,

@atomicpoet Our next challenge is to make cool, not by imitating proprietary services that already exist, but by inventing brand new experiences that are compelling enough to attract a whole new cohort of users.

tasket,

@mark @atomicpoet

Oh, my. This is going to be another long year of the Linux desktop. See you in 2051.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@tasket @mark I don’t get it. Please explain.

tasket,

@atomicpoet

The mantra back in the day was that the Linux desktop had to be un-like Apple and Microsoft in every way possible. The mindset was that wrong licensing also implied wrong design. That initiative is a famous and endlessly irritating failure.

I see some of the same thought process and hubris in this thread.

Unless you have some blockbuster new ideas just itching to fly from your fingertips into your IDE, I'd say that imitating popular birdsite features is a solid strategy, esp. if they are simple to implement & resource-saving (as QTs are) and mainly being withheld on principle.

atomicpoet,
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@tasket Are you even aware that there’s 50+ Fediverse projects and most of them don’t even resemble Twitter?

evan,
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atomicpoet,
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@mark Agreed.

ngaylinn,

@mark @atomicpoet Completely agreed. New ideas are hard, though! How do we stir some up?

mark,

@ngaylinn @atomicpoet And how do we get the right mix of creative energy, developer energy, and money or infrastructure?

ngaylinn,

@mark @atomicpoet What new product models would work for us but not for the big tech companies? What is unlocked when we can afford to compromise on scale, universality, and the demands of ads-based funding?

ngaylinn,

@mark @atomicpoet Just heard RedBubble is going to a new "tiered" model, unceremoniously dropping payments for low-volume sellers. What if there was a better platform for folks to create, share, crowd-fund, print, and publish through a suite of Fediverse apps that integrate into one seamless, create-focused experience?

ngaylinn,

@mark @atomicpoet Or perhaps the Fediverse could be a place to revolutionize the academic publishing space? What if there were better tools for creating, aggregating, finding, analysing, visualizing, and promoting scientific research built on the ActivityPub protocol?

ngaylinn,

@mark @atomicpoet I guess a recipe here is to look for mid-sized communities that depend on exploitative tools for their livelihood, and make something that actually puts them in the driver seat, for once.

Jonathanglick,
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  • tasket,

    @Jonathanglick @mark @atomicpoet

    98% of us are only here because its a reasonable first-blush facsimile of birdsite. And the shortcomings are costing us valuable context-making moments. I just saw a doozy from birdsite, a QT from the head of the SEC.

    (The flipside is you are incentivizing screenshot posts which are a bandwidth/storage burden to instances.)

    Also, journa.host, newsies.social and similar are having trouble gaining traction here precisely because their content simply cannot catch on without enthusiastic reader interpretations, summaries and finding the buried ledes. News orgs that aren't yellow/tabloid will always need that dynamic in cyberspace.

    But your are blowing that and letting those news instances suffer disinterest bc all we can do is put our comments beneath, or repost the link as our own toot.

    IMO, you are way too comfortable and full of yourselves.

    atomicpoet,
    @atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

    @tasket @Jonathanglick @mark Actually, 70% of the Fediverse is Mastodon, not 98%.

    And of those Mastodon users, 4 million of them had accounts before journa.host and newsie.social showed up.

    Some server software, like Friendica, was on the Fediverse 6 years before Mastodon was created.

    Sorry we’re not shutting things down just because you recently showed up.

    tasket,

    @atomicpoet

    That's a strange way to interpret what I said.

    You keep whiffing your own fumes. I'm out.

    Albatross,
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    @atomicpoet That's... that's not even how that works. And I'm REALLY glad NOW that never happened! Just what we need, Boy King with his fingers even more deeply embedded in the Internet.

    Odiseo79,
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    @atomicpoet No, they don't. I bet they can't tell the difference between the internet and the www.

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