I miss reddit

Warning: This is a rant.

I don’t really know how to describe it but the content isn’t quite where reddit had been for me. Also the comments are kind of weird at times, like they type of person here doesn’t quite seem as ‘normal’ as what I’m used to from reddit.

There’s a lot more open source and privacy focused people and conversations. A lot of people seem to hate on big tech and big companies in a sort of toxic-ish feeling way to me (not to say the other relationship isn’t toxic… just saying). Random conversations go into: “omg your privacy is lost cause you used a Google service.” Then we have the ‘if we don’t defederate with Meta the world ends’ conversations. I personally would like to see what Meta does in the fediverse… maybe it will make it more normalized…idk. Then the: “if your app isn’t open source its awful and terrible for the world” people.

Like that stuff is all fine, but it just isn’t quite my cup of tea.

These things remind me of that one person in my comp sci classes in college who I just couldn’t stand talking to. He would try to make you feel like an idiot by trying to sound all self righteous and smart. (Honestly he would fail and would generally look like a dingus).

The bulk of the content that gets comments seem to be mostly meme atm. At least on all (7/10 of the current top for me are memes). I like my memes, but would like some more breadth/depth.

Like I hope Lemmy continues to grow and hope it gets better, but it leaves me missing reddit at the moment.

In a perfect world I wish reddit corp wasn’t such assholes and this whole thing didn’t happen the way it did.

I’m completely skipping the UI and stuff not being as familiar and the various outages/bugs/etc since that’s to be expected with something at this stage.

Please don’t hate me :) Just sharing my unpopular opinion. Though I genuinely wonder if others feel the same way.

/Rant

JJROKCZ,

It’s mostly the technically adept people here, we’re naturally more aware of security/privacy issues present in tech spaces and are angry that the masses are so oblivious or uncaring of the problem. Especially when that problem keeps ruining our online spaces or putting us at real world risk by letting apps use their cameras/mics/locations all the god damn time

Brkdncr,

Not everyone that is technically adept agree with your statements.

Lovc,

Not everyone but probably most people that are technically adept, and even more so those that have switched from reddit to lemmy

UdeRecife,

True. Not everyone agrees. Since I’m just me, I can only speak for myself.

With this in mind, I would like to hear reasons why you or others don’t agree. I ask in good faith.

Having an opinion is as natural as being human. I see the world through my eyes, think about in my brain, color it by my life experiences. So there’s always the possibility that I might be missing something important. Perhaps you were persuaded by some strong and much valid point or points.

If that’s the case, and if you’re willing, can you please share why you disagree?

Brkdncr,

To start with, I don’t think privacy is that important. I think that most open source end-products aren’t good and they are only made better when money gets involved.

moon_matter,
moon_matter avatar

To start with, I don’t think privacy is that important.

It makes more sense when we start talking about privacy in concrete forms. It's about not giving any entity more information than it really needs in order to perform the service they claim to provide. For example, imagine how much better credit cards would be if the number was randomly generated, only valid for a single purchase and only the credit card company knew your name and address. Credit card scams would mostly be dead in the water and card readers would be rendered useless.

Brkdncr,

It’s not like it doesn’t make sense though. It makes sense that a credit card works the way it does because real-time authorization isn’t always available, and because there is a lot of legacy/backwards compatibility going on. If you wanted to “fix” credit cards you would get rid of them completely and switch to an identity service that allowed you to “federate” your identity with a lender’s service.

It sounds great, but in practice getting all of the ancillary parts working with each other is tough. Look how long Apple Pay (one of the better implementations of a better credit card) has been around and there are still a lot of places that don’t accept it.

Thinking about privacy as a 1:1 exchange with a service is already thinking two steps behind. Services have been using your info to create targeted ads since the beginning of capitalism. It really stepped up their game when computers and databases got involved, and as the internet became more prolific it got even more precise.

We’re at a point where your info isn’t even being used to target you. It’s valuable on its own.

And that’s the trade. You trade something of value to a service so that you can use their service.

Privacy is not important because we lost control of it a long time ago. It will take an act of Congress (in the US) to make it better, and there’s so much money involved that no one wants to tackle it head on.

toasteranimation,
@toasteranimation@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with this

s7ryph,

Privacy is always a trade off. You have to find a sweet spot that fits your convenience and willingness to share.

A good example is home automation. I can get a camera from someone like Nest and it’s cheap, feature packed and simple to use. But it’s going to harvest all your data and videos.

Instead I could go with Logitech and Apple. Now the price is 4x higher but the videos only exist on my Apple cloud. This is more secure but still could have security concerns, and increased costs and effort.

Lastly I could go with something like ubiquity. Another drastic increase in cost, with less features for remote access. But you host your videos locally and are in complete control. This option is by far the most complex to set up as well.

None of these are inherently bad if you understand the trade off. I am accomplished in tech and I choose the middle option because it best fit my lifestyle even though I could have went with the last option.

catastrophicblues,

Yup, the privacy-convenience trade off is the best explanation, and not everyone goes the extreme route. I too went the middle route with Apple.

jaydev, (edited )
@jaydev@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry, but what was even the point of this post? What have you accomplished by coming here and then complaining about the content here?

It seems like the root of the problem is that you’re not really clear on why you’re here in the first place. A lot of us are here because we’re sick of corporate social media. For those of us that this applies to, we have seen what Reddit has done, we have seen what Meta has done, and we have decided we have had enough. Seems like you kinda just came here because of Reddit’s API changes, and have not done any thinking about the broader trends this is indicative of with regards to the way tech companies operate and destroy friendly communities on the Internet like these. To me, they have shown that they see this group of users as a business opportunity and money they are missing out on, and they will do everything in their power to take advantage of it.

If you have so much faith in these companies that you are even ambivalent about them following you to the Fediverse, what are you doing here, in an environment that was created to escape them? You’ve literally heard from former artists whose dreams and livelihoods were destroyed by Meta changing its algorithms, and you want to see what Meta brings to the Fediverse? Can you not see why we, who moved here to escape Meta, Reddit, and tech companies, would be annoyed and frustrated by that? I see you apologizing for that user’s loss, but are you really sorry if you’re chill with bringing those things back into the one refuge we have left?

Please just figure your shit out. If you don’t like memes, you can block meme communities. If it’s too much, you can go back to Reddit or Meta. Lick their boots and pretend they have a motive of anything but profit, and will do anything but attempt to poach users from harmless, open source projects like these and destroy them. I don’t care. But complaining about a platform to users on that platform accomplishes nothing. And for the love of Lemmy, don’t be surprised that people are angry when you maintain the facade of keeping an open mind to something that has destroyed so much for so many. In my opinion, you may as well be a part of them, because the attitude of indifference you display toward these companies is what enables them to destroy good things for the rest of us.

Skanky,

https://media.tenor.com/hMjB6FV2oF4AAAAM/the-simpsons-stop.gif

jaydev,
@jaydev@lemmy.world avatar

XD thanks

Also now one thing I miss about Reddit is the ability to sort by controversial on this post >:)

Skanky,

I have to agree. I liked Reddit, but I’m so done with them. I’m not missing it nearly as much as i thought i would. Love your reply btw. Cheers!

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Geez man… it’s just an unpopular opinion. I thought this type of opinion was for here.

jaydev,
@jaydev@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not contesting the location of the post, just its content. I upvoted your post, because that’s how the unpopular opinion subreddit worked, so I assume that’s how this works too.

I freely admit I was annoyed when I made my comment. I’m sorry about that. I did make an effort to specifically phrase it so that it simply shares my perspective and doesn’t assume anything about yours; simply asks questions. I guess I just don’t get why someone would bother protesting Reddit’s API profit-driven API changes and move to a not-for-profit platform only to turn around and be happy to invite a profiteering entity with a terrible track record onto it. Sure, I’m annoyed by it, but I’m also just confused, because it’s… inconsistent. Do you believe Meta/Reddit and other tech companies are interested in just profit, or not? From a corporate perspective, can we not agree that Meta would like to incorporate Fediverse users into their social media, and will reap additional profit if they do, which is all the incentive they need?

I’m sorry I implied I didn’t see a point of your post. I agree with you on all the other stuff you mentioned about Reddit having larger communities, and so on. Yes, Lemmy apps are still under development, and they’re a bit buggy, and this is new and weird, and so on. Change always is. That’s all fine and valid, and I can see why your post is a bonding ground for all the Redditors (including myself) who’ve left in the last month. I’m just confused about the attitude toward the companies. Honestly, I’m really afraid of having to move to yet another platform if Meta comes here, and that fear manifests itself as defensiveness. So I wasn’t very nice, and I’m sorry about that.

becool,

not to be a dick, but good riddance to anyone implying meta isn't an unethical, monster of a corporation that is defined by it's opportunism, serves only it's own interests, and has forfeited any and all good faith it may once have had. trust them at your own peril, and go back to reddit.

sour,
sour avatar

not to be a dick

go back to reddit

Widowmaker_Best_Girl,

“Not to be a dick, but…”

Proceeds to be a dick to OP

AlexKingstonsGigolo,

csm10495: Hey, guys. Can we not be assholes about why we are here?

becool: Not to say "fuck you and get out" but fuck you and get out.

Personally, I see both sides of this matter. As a long time redditor, I am seething at the thought spez is effectively claiming "We are entitled to all the free data users gave us over the years and to jack up our API prices which will make for a worse user experience. I also think there is a right way and a wrong way to discuss the overreach of some people, like spez, who have a pathological lack of awareness in a way which makes constructive resolution easier and more imminent.

For example, instead of what you wrote, I might have said something like "Fortunately, reddit is still a thing and we can work on showing the people over there just how shitty spez's actions have been and how they will lead to a worsening experience for them while simultaneously encouraging them to join kbin".

I'm not saying your position and its premises are necessarily wrong; I am saying time, place, and manner of communication often -- if not always -- matter.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

See… this is the type of comment that cements my opinion. I don’t really care about the ‘meta’ of the platform at the moment. Most businesses tend to be this way in this world. There can be a separate conversation on that pitfalls of today’s capitalism. I just want a link aggregator with friendly people that is usable for all.

If those friendly people wind up coming from Threads or whatever, that’s ok with me. It doesn’t have to be ok with others though, I won’t push my opinion on others at least in this context.

I gave my opinion and you gave good riddance. That isn’t exactly welcoming.

Veltoss,

Reddit wasn’t welcoming to opinions outside the hivemind either, you just didn’t notice because you were inside it.

You’re basically telling everyone to be nice and pretend these same kinds of people who killed reddit for us won’t kill the fediverse when we have every reason to believe they will, and you don’t want us to talk about it or do anything about it?

I don’t really get why you’re here in the first place. If you liked reddit and don’t hate modern social media why not just stay there? People came here to avoid what meta could do to the fediverse and avoid what reddit became. Why are you acting surprised that people are acting that way?

tikitaki,
tikitaki avatar

You’re basically telling everyone to be nice and pretend these same kinds of people who killed reddit for us won’t kill the fediverse when we have every reason to believe they will, and you don’t want us to talk about it or do anything about it?

Up to now, I've asked probably like 6 times in various different threads on kbin / lemmy / mastadon

Nobody has given a concrete mechanism by which federating with Meta will kill the Fediverse. At most people just parrot out the acronym "EEE" and link the singular article by Ploum and pretend like they've said something meaningful

Federation is like email. I'm not going to block Gmail off from my email server because there are millions of people who use Gmail. It would be a disservice to my open standard to be blocking off millions of people from communicating with me. Instance owners are not going to give them their admin passwords. The Lemmy devs aren't going to close source Lemmy and license it to Meta.

It's not even like federation is a permanent thing. Instance owners can federate and as soon as Meta brings negative consequences they can defederate. The main risk I see is a large influx of people.. which is not a bad thing, especially once it stabilizes. It would mean more people make more subs and all sorts of niche things will start to pop up - the only really nice thing about reddit.

So tell me, what is the urgent crisis attitude for? How is this the end of the world? Why do we see post after post of people freaking out about this? Instance owners can't even sign an NDA without getting death threats.

Nicenightforawalk,

The content you’re replying to reminds me of the earlier years of reddit where they think they are superior of mind and basically look down on you.

Saganastic,

You gave your opinion and he did as well. I agree with becool, Meta has proven themselves to be an extremely unethical and untrustworthy company throughout the years. I believe it's in the best interest of the fediverse for instances to distance themselves from Meta. That said, there's nothing stopping you from using multiple platforms, or working to foster the type of community and culture you want here.

This is still the very early days of the fediverse and it will no doubt change a lot in the coming months and years. If there were things you liked about reddit then try to bring that culture here and you might attract more like minded people.

nieceandtows,

I mean, there are dozens of rational and polite comments in this thread, and you’re choosing this one comment to ‘cement your opinion’. I’m a techie, but I don’t know if I’m one of those weird people you talk about, or just a normal person you want. I have noticed less hostility in the comments, and the hostile ones like this one stand out because the friendly ones are most prevalent. I also have been seeing more and more of the text based communities gain traction over the past week with more normal people stories, and hope they gain even more traction in the coming days.

As for Reddit, I have been occasionally visiting some of my niche communities that haven’t migrated over, but have decided not to participate in anything there. I have also noticed that the Reddit front page is now a lot similar to Lemmy, that I often can’t tell if I’m on Reddit or Lemmy. I saw a post there today about some guy playing a song on piano for 3 girls, and the top 10 comments with thousands of upvotes were all the same old Reddit tropes of panties down, floor wet, leave some pussy for us, and so on. I’m noticing them more and more because of how different the comment section on Lemmy is.

You don’t have to feel bad about staying here or visiting Reddit or doing them both at the same time. You have no obligation for either site.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s fair. I’m working through comments. Kind of got derailed by a trip to Grocery Outlet. Lots of positive comments in here as well.

Lots of nice response and good people. I guess I sort of made an example out of this one. Not everyone is like this. The idea of using possibly both this and Reddit isn’t really something I had considered since I wanted to protest them being dicks… but maybe that’s a good compromise till things get further along. 🤷

margaritox,

It’s really up to you. But I decided to cut off reddit completely because I personally feel like, if you don’t quit cold turkey, you’re never gonna leave (not you in particular). Mind you, reddit has been a huge means of support since the fullscale invasion if Ukraine started, so quitting reddit of especially divestment. But you know what, being without reddit has been easier than I imagined. I feel like, to truly help Lemmy pick up, we have to believe that it will and invest energy only here. But that’s just me. You’re not obligated to either community.

OpenStars,
OpenStars avatar

Reddit is somewhat known for being unwelcoming as well though?

For myself, honestly no I don't miss it at all. But mostly b/c I'll stay with Reddit, after a month's hiatus for protest, and probably only check it once a week for an hour rather than multiple times a day as before. There's a particular gaming community over there that doesn't post much content here yet, and even while I'm trying to help do my part there, I still want to be informed... which means at least reading Reddit (probably via Teddit to deprive them of traffic). I'm also on Squabbles too. Some people also are saying that kbin.social is more welcoming than most Lemmy servers, especially sh.itjust.works - I don't know about that b/c wouldn't you see mostly the same content b/c of federation? - but in any case it could be a thought to try different instances, maybe especially smaller ones.

It depends on what you wanted it for tbh. If you can stand to be on Reddit, then go for it? Maybe also stay here too, if you like certain parts of it, and get the best of both worlds. You can't force people to be welcoming, you can only find places where they hang out and then you hang out there too. Squabbles is fairly welcoming - it's being described right now as something like toxically non-toxic, as in activist-level hunting down of toxic personality traits, I can't really explain it but check it out if you are interested:-).

Good luck, and I hope that you find what you need. Also, please remember to use social media responsibly rather than let it use you: it is addictive regardless of what platform you find yourself on, and maybe you are awakening to that possibility b/c of the switch, i.e. if you moved back you would find that it was no longer "the same" as it was before, b/c of your new understanding of that fact? If so, hopefully these growing pains lead to something better:-).

Schooner,

I don’t think the point is to be welcoming to big tech messing up another platform. Seriously, which big tech platform hasn’t had a scandal around fucking over its users?

I understand the feeling of not having the kind of content you vibe with yet. There’s a lot of stuff on Reddit that I miss too. This is still primarily a Western audience, while Reddit was just starting to get popular in my country.

The insufferable people going on about open source and privacy is the reason we have Lemmy in the first place. If you don’t have strong opinions and a desire to get away from big corporations, why would you make Lemmy in the first place?

The algorithms big tech uses to boost engagement on their platforms is the reason things don’t stay friendly on their platforms. So, it’s fine if they come over but helping extend the reach of big tech over Lemmy is a serious no no.

Think of a union striking. Yes, it could impact your daily life and inconvenience you by making you late to your appointment. But, at the end of the day, they’re fighting for your right to reasonable working conditions just as much they are fighting for theirs. You don’t have to actively support them, just not oppose them for the slight benefit of your present convenience!

For example, the “normal” people are the ones who will complain about jobs going overseas but then not buy American because of minimal price differences! Here’s a link that talks about the case of American Apparel.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

I guess for me its to protest reddit’s treatment of their community… not really to decentralize elsewhere. It can kind of be both though.

Schooner,

Reddit is part of the symptom. We need to treat the disease at its roots. And yes, that is going to take at least some amount of sacrifice/inconvenience on our part.

I think it makes more sense if you think of it like a system.

Zilliah,

I’m with you, I miss it too. Lemmy and it’s instances confuse me, but I’m doing my part by doing my best at avoiding Reddit since I’m strictly a 3rd party app mobile user.

We will wait it out together and hope it gets better (I’m so tired of seeing crap about Meta and Threads).

soft_frog,

Instances aren't too complicated, they're just subreddits that live on different servers.

The Lemmy interface is confusing though (and kbin too).

gunslingerfry,

Obviously also new here. What you are seeing, honestly, is that the communities that have the most activity. This is what the majority of the users here want. Can you really blame them? You came to a preexisting community that had one thing in common. The federated social networks are explicitly anti-faang, that’s their reason for being. We’re just here because Reddit took away our stuff. It’s on us to make the content and the community we want. They welcomed us.

soft_frog,

Yep. The reason the fediverse exists is to solve the ownership problem of big social network companies (ranging from privacy issues, to greed, to political influence), so naturally the group that uses the fediverse first are the ones that feel most strongly about that issue.

It really isn't hostile here 95% of the time, but on the topic of Meta it's like poking a hornets nest.

I know my family and most people don't really care about the privacy settings of Meta and I don't bother trying to convince them to change, but I will always enjoy shit talking them to like minded folk online.

weird_nugget,

I really don’t mean to be offensive but if you miss it why don’t you go back? No one is forcing you to be here. If you don’t care about the concerns we have on this side then just go back, reddit is still there for you.

Mitrian,

While I hear where you’re coming from, I would not chase away anyone just because they have a different world view or perspective, or wants to see something different than what’s here today (as long as it’s not toxic, of course). Having diverse opinions and experiences is what makes many conversations compelling, otherwise you end up in the same echo chambers that corporate owned social media have fostered.

OP, don’t go back, you came here for a reason. Have patience and understanding, and contribute to the areas you personally want to see grow, and it will come around.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Much thanks. I think my concerns just happen to be different from others. Hopefully we’re more accepting of that in the long run.

weird_nugget,

I didn’t mean to say he MUST go back. All I’m saying is that if he likes something he doesn’t need to feel pressured by everyone else who thinks different. He likes reddit so why not use it? It is as if I stopped eating pineapple on pizza (yes I am one of those) just because a lot of people hate it.

toasteranimation,
@toasteranimation@lemmy.world avatar

trailblazers are always ‘weird’. Open source and privacy people BUILD all this software for everyone. As soon as millions of people rush in, you won’t even notice the weirdos anymore

gunslingerfry,

The weirdos… being us?

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Excuse me I go by freak

user1919,

call me a deviant

unexplaineditem,
@unexplaineditem@lemmy.world avatar

You’re a deviant!

user1919,

that sounded weird.

Frostwolf,
@Frostwolf@lemmy.world avatar

In fairness. i don’t consider myself tech adept, I don’t know how to run a server but I know the importance of privacy and open source. Maybe take it as a good thing that these are being openly talked about here, otherwise the mistakes of reddit will just be repeated. Supporting closed source is a ticking time bomb.

Companies can and will betray you in the name of profit.

On to privacy and security, they ARE important. You have no idea how many people lost money in their banks or have to deal with lengthy lawsuits and procedures just to get their life back after someone impersonated them by stealing their data or ID.

In our area, OTP scams are very rampant. And people constantly fall victim to random calls asking for OTP and other details ; then have their banks withdrawn huge amount of money precisely because the issue of security and privacy aren’t openly being talked about.

Please don’t take it as a negative, but a good thing that these types of things are being discussed.

As a popular quote (paraphrased) says “those who fail to learn the past is doomed to constantly repeat it.”

We don’t want another reddit or twitter.

People are still healing from reddit’s bad decisions. Let them mourn. Let them be angry, let them go through the stages of grief in their own pace.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

The only thing I thought Reddit was for the last 5 or so years was shitposts and memes. Which is pretty much the same here atm. Maybe in time, it will be like the reddit I joined 10-11 years ago, and have genuinely good, unique content that isn’t a shitpost or low-effort meme.

I know the niches are the key, but here’s my problem: The things I am into aren’t niche anymore. They used to be… But they are ever increasing into the mainstream, so the conversation (or lack thereof really) is the same in every space. 😩

BitOneZero,

Reddit since 2010 has always had a hard time with people willing to actually go to alternatives. Just to have different owners/operators, the code was open source 6 years ago, but not enough users ever bothered to establish an “alternate reddit” with a significant user base. Even if it was only 10% of the main Reddit site, it would have been something. Voat was different software, Lemmy is different software, it was just odd that people were so loyal to such a centralized system. I remember when a lot of Reddit users came from Fark, Slashdot, Usenet, Digg - it wasn’t out of loyalty to a single owner/operator.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s important to note that I think its probably not missing reddit as itself. More like missing the community and its various posts, comments, etc.

I guess the environment it had fostered to some extent.

PatFussy,

Unpopular opinion: if you miss reddit then get the fuck off lemmy and go back to reddit. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to stay here. I have been on reddit aince 2009 and lemmy is as old reddit as it can get. Fuck this new reddit crowd who grew up doom scrolling as a 2 year old

Ejh3k,

I had been on reddit for more than a decade, and it takes time. And it takes people posting and commenting. As a relatively “normal” person, I don’t even really fully understand what lemmy/fediverse is. I’m barely getting a handle on what instances are. And from what I gather, it could be a really cool place.

But it’ll take time. And people. So I suggest just staying calm, up and down vote things as you see fit.

I don’t know if I’ll ever go back to reddit, but it definitely was my main source of information on subjects that I have interest it. I’ve stopped using Facebook, I only use Twitter to interact with podcasts.

We will get through this.

Numuruzero,

What you’re experiencing I think is completely normal. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Reddit is mainstream, and Lemmy is not. Hypothetically, you might find, say, your plumber on Reddit, who casually browses in down time. The most normal user probably just uses a browser or the normal app; they may have very little or no knowledge about the reddit blackouts, what’s happening, and why.

Maybe some users were using third party apps and know what happened, but if they don’t care much about the reasons they might just stop using Reddit or settle with the native app. This category of users and the last are all probably making up a large part of the user base in general, and of the non-tech (normal?) Subreddits in particular.

The users who migrated to Lemmy by this point will be pretty much a reversal of Reddit’s dynamic. The majority will be privacy/tech minded and have moved specifically in protest to Reddit’s corporate/capitalist practices. They are here hoping to disrupt the norm and prove that we don’t require a centralized power system to run social media.

Then there are probably a minority of users who are simply curious because they heard about an alternative and wanted to see what this is all about. A lot of these users probably don’t stick around if they don’t see the kind of stuff they want to see.

Out of any groups, only a small portion will provide content, and a slightly larger portion will take part in discussion. Memes are the easiest content to produce and to consume, so that’s probably why they’re so prevalent.

Personally I enjoy the conversation around privacy, FOSS, etc, but I do truly hope we’ll start to see more of the normal communities develop here. Particularly I miss some of the creative writing communities which I know for sure haven’t really transferred off of Reddit by this point.

badragonfly7137,

And then there’s a small subset who is tech adjacent, kind of understands what’s going on, and is fed up with Reddit’s CEO being a dick. 😅 I genuinely like Lemmy and try to understand the techy posts.

Apex_Fail,

Yup, this (lemmy/fediverse) feels like Reddit 14 years ago. I joined about a year before the Digg migration and it was a very focused forum (mostly tech and science focused because nerds), but about 2ish years post Digg publicly shitting its pants there were more general/mainstream communities and it really started gaining traction.

We are still in the infancy of the Fediverse, as seen by the current state of apps/mobile, but we have a far more tech savvy generation using the internet. That, coupled with apps rapidly evolving/making the fediverse more accessible I think we will see a large influx in the coming months.

Jenner8,

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    Kushia,
    @Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

    The majority here don’t share your views when it comes to Meta and that’s a good thing. If you want to see what they do then there’s nothing stopping you signing up a free account on Threads and having at it.

    Meta will do whatever it wants to do in the fediverse space regardless of who federates with them because they are a muli-million user platform with the money to support it. The users of Lemmy are small fry compared to that.

    BackStabbath,

    I’m always so curious about new apps that I did sign up and try using threads before deciding it’s not for me. I use a ton of Google services and other big tech stuff. Frankly, I think I just stopped giving a rat’s ass and sacrifice privacy for convenience. I don’t see myself changing anytime soon. I would always pick better UX over mediocre/poor UX with better privacy. The thing that irritates me about Reddit is the terrible UX of the official app. But I’m also younger and haven’t faced anything as such, so I’m not afraid of my printer at the moment. My uncle who works in cybersecurity genuinely acts like the kind of guy who wants a bunker and is a total conspiracy theorist.

    astropenguin5,

    Im somewhat similar, also younger and have a fair amount of big tech/google stuff. i am fairly aware of the dangers and try to compromise safety and security with convenience. my dad is MUCH more serious about security and privacy than me or the rest of my family, and does IT stuff for all the linux computers at a univerity near me. he of course has all linux stuff, buys the dumbest tech possible, etc. I wont sign up for threads purely because of how much data they want to collect, and would rather interface with it over the fediverse.

    There is a lot of simple things you can do that wil greatly increase privacy/security without sacrificing ease of use or UX. firefox + ublock origin will eliminate 99% of tracking, data collection, and ads on the internet. that is most of the actual software stuff i do, other than just not signing up for an excessive number of things and giving too many people my data (even this i dont do super hardcore.)

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