deadbeef79000,

Meanwhile in my neighborhood, cops called to kidnapping, find the woman later that evening.

No firearms discharged.

awwwyissss,

That’s not newsworthy on Lemmy, it won’t make people hateful and divide them like this story will.

deadbeef79000,

Police in my country don’t carry side arms which makes it far more difficult for them to murder people.

Though, that kidnapping incident apparently involve a firearm, so the police responding were armed, and still no one died.

Also, they tend to not get startled by noises, say like acorns falling, or if they do, don’t have a gun to fire in blind panic, and when they are armed, have the discipline to not empty the magazine like Rambo

nomous,

You guys don’t even let your cops do a little brutality, as a treat?

deadbeef79000,

They get their kicks from faking evidence and doubling down on wrongful convictions.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Well, it’s nice to give them SOME benefits for class treason.

Pistcow,

Weird way to say cop murders innocent person.

pop,

Cops are scared as anybody else and wanna go back to their homes without any consequence, watch fox news and beat their wife. They didn’t sign up to be inconvenienced. ohkaay?

-Right wing nuts

Mic_Check_One_Two,

Yeah, it’s always interesting to see how newspapers will twist the English language to keep using passive voice with cops. It’s not “cops kill innocent” it’s “innocent killed by police’s gunfire.” Notice that in the former, it’s the cops actively killing, while in the latter it’s the victim who is listed first, then the gunfire is what is active. It’s a small bit of psychology to make the police’s actions seem more distant and removed from the situation.

Etterra,

Murdering murderers murder. Again.

PhlubbaDubba,

At this point calling the cops is just calling a hit in.

Igloojoe,

Literally, what calling in swat is known for.

someguy3,

Helicopter video youtu.be/ryoeQpkQlA4 Go to 3 min. Warning death.

can, (edited )

This should keep them up at night for the rest of their lives. But of course if they had any kind of empathy or conscience they wouldn’t be cops in the first place.

The Sheriff’s Department did not initially disclose exactly how Savannah or Mr. Graziano had been killed, and said at the time that it was possible that Savannah might have participated in the shooting.

Absolute cunts.

bilboswaggings,

Only in America is “might have” enough reason to kill someone

ShadowRam,

It's insane that they're just opening fire, while innocent drivers are passing by on the opposite side of that highway.

You can see a bullet bounce off the barrier. (3:19)

Like WTF is wrong with your country that you allow your police force to just fire off their weapons in public like that?

None of those cops give a flying fuck about the general public in the background, and people are stunned that they killed the hostage they were supposed to be helping?

Showroom7561,

I think they believed it was the father running out. She was apparently wearing tactical gear.

CraigeryTheKid,

the guy she was going towards knew it was her, and he was calling her.

it looks like someone else started the “she’s coming right for us” and then others joined in - but the original cop immediately shouted “stop its her” or something.

so seriously fucked up.

kautau,

Sounds like none of them had or followed any sort of proper protocol, and they should all be kicked off the force, charged with murder, and never allowed to work as police ever again

floofloof,

Put on paid leave for a few months and then quietly transferred to another police station, you say?

BlitzoTheOisSilent,

Nah, they’ll be allowed to retire early due to PTSD and receive a pension and disability for the rest of their lives.

mosiacmango,

She was out of the car and crouched down alone by the passengar door when one of the cops said “its her, shes out the passenger door” and yelled at her to walk towards them. Dispatch said the same thing at the same time. As shes walking (not running) clearly unarmed towards the cops as instructed, several other cops RIGHT NEXT TO THE ONE THAT TOLD HER TO WALK TO THEM shoot her several times and kill her.

There was controversy the same day about what happened to her. The sheriff’s department blamed her dead father, then refused to release this footage for 18 months, only doing so when sued by a journalist.

Youre giving these violent murderers way, way, way to much credit.

Showroom7561,

How do you know which officer is giving instructions, who they are near, and who heard it?

In the video, I see at least eight officers, at least 20m away from the vehicle in all directions.

Who was the one that shot her?

Is there another source you can reference explaining the details? Because there’s no way anyone could know based on the video and article.

That said, this is about as American as a police interaction can be.

FonsNihilo,

Why does any of that matter? What matters is the police killed the person they were trying to save.

One cop was trying to do it right, while all the other piggies were pretending to be heros.

Don’t defend them.

Showroom7561,

Facts matter. I’m not in the position to defend anyone, as it’s hard to know exactly what happened, even after watching the video several times.

What matters is the police killed the person they were trying to save.

When you’re in a situation where bullets are flying from both the “'good” and “bad” guy, innocent victims can, and do, get killed. This happens more often than you’d think, and there isn’t a perfect way to end a situation like this. Everyone’s life is at risk when you’ve got a murderer in a car not willing to surrender.

The narrative that all those officers, except for one, wanted the KIDNAP VICTIM to be shot and killed is so deranged and incomprehensible outside an American mindset.

Let’s not lose focus here. The father who kidnapped her is ultimately the one to blame. His actions led to her death.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Let’s not lose focus here. The father who kidnapped her is ultimately the one to blame. His actions led to her death.

This is a wild take. These cops (all of them present) are to blame for where the rounds from their firearms go.

Showroom7561,

So it was the cops who woke up that day and said “I want to kill an innocent girl today”, rather than the guy who actually got up with the intention to kill his family?

We obviously have two different perspectives, but I could never see it that way.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Its not a binary choice and presenting it as such is manipulative. Those cops where there to do what?

If it was to protect the populous then they failed miserably, shooting wildly into the public many times.

If it was to save the girl then they failed completely when they murdered her.

If it was to show everyone they are in control and had the situation in hand then they failed spectacularly when they made the whole situation into chaos.

If it was to bring the father to justice for intending to kill his family then they failed tragically when they helped him out by killing his family for him.

The idea that no matter what the cops do its the accused fault is so ass backwards to anyone outside of the USA. These chuckle fucks made a bad situation much worse while showing off their massive incompetence. Hell what would have happen if they all did not show up for work that day?

Showroom7561,

I don’t disagree. It was a total failure on their part, but a situation like that one really had a very slim chance of success.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Why did they attempt it then? I am sorry but poor choices in when to engage and how are still on the cops here.

All they had to do was not be so trigger happy, people need to be held responsible for the bullets that are coming out of the firearm in their hands.

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