Brain chips to be tested on humans this year, Elon Musk says
If Neuralink can prove its device is safe in humans, it would still potentially take more than a decade for the start-up to secure commercial use approval
If Neuralink can prove its device is safe in humans, it would still potentially take more than a decade for the start-up to secure commercial use approval
SneakySquid, Yeah, that's gonna be a no from me
Singletona, Given a descendant of this technology has the potential for seizure moderation, which is something my sister basically will need as the medication she uses will inevitably require doses that would destroy her liver or leave her all but vegetative. It's super interesting from a technical aspect and hyper-relevant.
However, given Musk's antics especially as of late? I wouldn't trust him to not accidentally intentionally kill people, or use it as a way to have an unremovable keylogger with the end goal of 'Oh those are some nice eyes you've got there,' or 'lovely able to live without going into convulsions isn't it? It'd be a shame if that changed.'
torafugu, If someone offends him on Twitter and if they got a brain chip, it's the end of 'em.
KarsicKarl, My initial response was a recollection of the plot of The Kingsman.
Sticking implants in brains for fun is stupidity on a stick.
Implants are already used to control some forms of epilepsy, however these are on the vagus nerve and not in the brain. This sort of application makes sense.
gus, Honestly I won't get one but I'm fine for Elon to break into it. I kinda feel like that's the only thing he does well. Funnels money into concepts people believe are impossible. Fail until there's some small success and let other, more competent people learn from those failures. I think I'd rather have that than stay stagnant and/or have the Russian brain chip become the standard
exohuman, Good point. Let’s see what comes of this. Like I have said, I would welcome a chip if it solves my brain’s issues (instead of side effect laden medication) and it’s likely that the chip I want would be from one of those folks that learn from failure.
Singletona, The important thing is people can't just casually reprogram the damned thing.
having an ability to diagnose and correct without cracking your head open is fine, but it has to be a way that's 'you're giving positive affirmation that you're OK with it or a medical professional is physically having to plug a thing in or on or ... just so it can't be 'oh hey yo ustepped through these induction plates. we turned your anti-siezure chip off due to your non-compliance.'
Untitled9999, This is completely dystopian.
As others have said, Elon should test this on himself before he tests it on others, if he's really so confident in it.
It is inevitable that this will have negative health effects, and when that happens, Elon will just wipe his hands and say "not my problem".
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kool_newt, You will feel extreme pain until your thoughts are corrected.
RyanHakurei, Yeah the left doesn't have any room to talk, at all:
- Holodomor
- Great Leap "Forward"
- Xinjiang/Uyghur Genocide
- Khmer Rouge
- Tiananmen Square
- Fidel Castro's Cuba
- Stalin's USSR
Many such regimes which were also oppressive of the poor, foreign, ethnic minorities, and neurodivergent. I am sure you will simp for and/or deny every single one of them, though, as you leftists always do.
The left will never be deserving of the benefits of the contract, they've killed more people in the 20th century than all forms of cancer, many major diseases, smoking (bundled into the cancer point somewhat), all forms of accidents, etc
californiarepublik, Is 'the left' in the room with us now?
RyanHakurei, Are the "nazis, alt-right, conservatives, etc" in the room with us now? Lol, go back to Reddit.
californiarepublik, Wait who brought them up now?
Untitled9999, What does this have to do with brain implants...
CarrierLost, What are you angry about?
Singletona, Dude's political flambaiting. Flag and move on.
CarrierLost, Yeah, I did.
RyanHakurei, What's with the attempted gaslighting? Also are you saying that mass death doesn't anger you even in the slightest? Or is it that you're ok with mass death committed by your side?
CarrierLost, First, I wasn’t aware I was on a side.
Second, there’s no attempt at gaslighting. I’m asking why you’re angry. I think it’s because I’m confused what any of this has to do with brain chips. Maybe it’s a post in the wrong thread?
So, in short, I’m just asking you for the reason you’ve posted this, in an attempt to better understand why I’m seeing this where I’m seeing it.
Killakomodo, They must have one of the chips installed already and it's already misfunctioning, Makes the most sense to me.
LChitman, Sounds like their chip is part of a botnet
millions,
torafugu, Probably a troll account.
BaconIsAVeg, It's pretty funny to see someone in the wild who actually thinks because those were Communist countries, the persons in charge must have been 'Leftists'.
And damn those Leftists down in North Carolina, Kentucky, and Tennessee for growing all that tobacco using slave labor and then lobbying the government for the right to sell their product even though they knew it killed people!
115 comments and -320 karma. Stay woke guy, you'll get em next time for sure.
RyanHakurei, Lol caring about fake internet points is peak Reddit. Oh, and wow 13 comments and -14 hurr hurr ur internet number is negative too.
eskimofry, My friend, you don't understand what "The left" means except what you hear on TV.
Clairvoidance, I'm still curious what this has to do with neuralink brain chips
Ronno, I get huge Deus Ex vibes. During the game, one concept stuck with me in relation to this. There was this woman, that was a doctor, but she wouldn't get hired to work in the hospital, because she didn't have the right chip in her head. She couldn't afford it, so she was unemployed. Such a sad prospect, if this is what leads to that.
BaconIsAVeg, Also, S1E1 of Futurama!
exohuman, I’m neurodivergent and I would love a chip to help with that, but this company decided it’s leader is Musk and I don’t trust him. He used to be a hero in my eyes until the Twitter fiasco. Then I saw him for what he was.
RyanHakurei, So you liked him when he agreed with your politics, and now that he took away your safe space to shit on certain demographics scot-free suddenly he's bad.
eskimofry, Conservative spotted
exohuman, I liked him when he wasn’t hateful towards trans people. I liked him when he wasn’t pushing an agenda of intolerance. Btw… what demographic is it that I supposedly shit on?
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exohuman, You should touch grass. That’s a lot of assumptions for someone you don’t know at all. I suggest you chill out and stop reading into people based on culture war bullshit. Also, what is a TOS pass?
RyanHakurei, Lol from the person bringing up culture war talking points like MUH TWANNSSSS. Also, a TOS-pass is used to describe when the TOS does not apply to you. You're basically free to violate TOS without repercussions which is something I'd presume a Reddit refugee would be familiar with. Something I bet even you utilized on Reddit.
exohuman, Yeah, I’m not feeding this troll anymore.
ivy, I'm banning this troll from my instance lol
RyanHakurei, Oh no whatever will I do without being able to interact with your shitty instance that'll be gone within a year?
muse, Probably shit yourself and cry that you have fewer places to scream your freeze peach on.
You aren't rustling any jimmies but your own. All of us are just laughing and downvoting you without reading what you say. Your words aren't being read and you're wasting all this anger.
Why don't you go back to your alt right safe space and daydream about being the next school shooter you lil bitch?
LChitman, I'm reading some of them, in all their unprompted and unhinged glory.
RyanHakurei, Its instance has less than 100 users, less than 100 posts, and less than 100 comments. I think I'm fine not being able to interact on an already dead instance, and do you think I care about fake internet points on a project that'll die out within a few years just like all other Reddit clones? Try touching some grass instead of gaining your value from a number on a screen, or you can provide at least some value to the world by killing yourself, and make sure you livestream it to add entertainment value to it.
Killakomodo, Yeah but do you really think they are a troll? Seems more like an actually insane person, I think they believe the bullshit they are selling.
Klunk, Being a troll and being insane aren't exactly mutually exclusive though
Killakomodo, True, guess they are. I am gonna continue to laugh at them repeatedly.
Killakomodo, Shut the fuck up, you are insane and no one care about your shit ass opinions. There, hope you learned something, tho that seems near impossible for you.
RyanHakurei, Someone's angry. Have you tried stepping in front of a speeding train?
Killakomodo, nah not angry just think you are braindead, and I like pissing off dipshits.
RyanHakurei, You can take the Redditor off of Reddit, but you can't take the Reddit out of the Redditor. How long until you AHS shitheads start spamming CSEM to instances you don't like to get their hosting provider to take them down?
Killakomodo, You just say random bullshit don't you? How many times do you have to be dropped as a child to end up like this? This is not a rhetorical question either, I actually do wonder how many head injuries you sustained to end like this.
RyanHakurei, Mmmm toxic sludge, keep it coming Redditor. Vent it allll out.
Killakomodo, I mean I can keep shit talking you, yeah. I mean you can act like you like being called out but you know deep down you hate that everyone thinks you are a braindead buffoon and that your opinions are worthless.
RyanHakurei, Oh no people on a site that'll be dead within a year or two don't like me however will I live? God you terminally online people never cease to amaze me. I can't imagine living life as you, it must be depressing as hell.
Killakomodo, No people in person also disregard your opinions, I can guarantee it.
RyanHakurei, Wow do tell me more about my life. I love seeing the things you project onto others.
Killakomodo, lol have you read any of the shit you said where you accuse fucking everyone of random bullshit?????
freebrick, I'd rather live in a cave for the rest of my life than let CrazyElon brain chip me.
tomve_cz, He said a lot of things ... He's like Trump - full mouth of words but reality is always another thing
earthling, Full self driving just around the corner.
Singletona, I've been hearing that one for thirty years.
HubertManne, This is all you need to know from the article:
"On at least four occasions since 2019, Musk predicted that Neuralink would soon start human trials."
Flaky_Fish69, How many times has he missed the mark on Tesla full self driving?
tomve_cz, Mercedes Benz has approval in California for self driving. It has bigger level than Tesla ... lol
CynAq, I want a brain chip in theory.
I don't want any current human to have anything to do with it. The average human's comprehension of life, consciousness, what it is to be human etc are so far behind ideal, I wouldn't trust anyone currently alive to start testing a direct brain-computer interface.
In several hundred years when we have Trek style space communism, sure!
komplekx, Just imagine the possibility of space capitalism. War, war everywhere :D
Bucket_of_Truth, The UN voted years ago that astroid mining is allowed.
CynAq, Inyalowda be like dat, sasa ke
Flaky_Fish69, So… Star Trek…
The only thing the Federation really did was convince people to work for free. They still had wars- lots of them, in fact- still had a military (one which
trained kids in the fieldthought it was a good idea to have kids onbattleships“exploration” ships)
Astigma, The Ferengi's 34th rule of acquisition is: War is good for business. They themselves never waged war though, curiously.
Flaky_Fish69, Depends on how you defined war.
The ferengi ship where Picard makes
firstsecond or third contact above the power draining planet was an equal to the enterprise.“Oh but the federation doesn’t build warships”… the enterprise is more than a match for romulan and Klingon battle ships.
socialjusticewizard, (edited ) A tng era romulan warbird is massively more dangerous than the enterprise. The series was mostly designed so that they could take out their enemies by shooting them.
Astigma, (edited ) The Ferengi have a military sure but its primary use is to protect their enterprises, not to wage war on other factions. Also who are you talking to that claimed the federation doesn't build warships? It certainly wasn't me.
Flaky_Fish69, The federation itself.
The defiant was a big deal because it was a warship, and the Feds “don’t do that”. Even though most their ships are in fact heavily armed and capable of at least holding their own against “dedicated” warships of (frequently very) hostile civilizations
Astigma, I see where you're coming from. The Defiant-Class are definitely a purposefully designed "Warship" and the first Starfleet has made in a long time at that point. Yeah I concede the point. I look at a ship like the Galaxy-Class with its phaser arrays etc and I think warship but it was built and designed during a time of peace, Starfleet wouldn't have viewed it as a warship.
Singletona, It's an exploration ship.... that's almost big enough to qualify as a mobile starbase given the civilian population. Having armaments isn't stupid, especially given how often they rejiggered the phasers to act as a tool rather than a weapon.
Singletona, 35th rule of acquisition: Peace is good for Business.
Or maybe it's the other way around I always get those two mixed up.
ImplyingImplications, Where are all those people who were worried vaccines had chips in them? Now this guy is literally saying he's going to chip you and nothing lol
Granite, Consistency is not a hallmark of conservatism; being a numpty is.
skogens_ro, I don't believe in the vaccine-chip nonsense, but I think there's consistency there: it's about informed consent. There's a huge difference between being told by the government to take a vaccine that secretly has a chip in it, and Elon Musk offering chips for sale. If you choose to buy Musk's chip, you're doing so voluntarily and you know that you are getting a chip.
Plus, how many of the tinfoil hats are cheering on Neuralink?
goat, The difference is that the vaccine physically can't have a chip. It's impossible for that level of technology to be injected into muscle through a needle.
skogens_ro, Yeah there are numerous reasons why the conspiracy theory doesn't hold.
But that's besides the point. Let's say they thought the vaccine secretly contained benzos in order to make the population more docile or whatever. That doesn't mean they need to object to any use of the drug in order to be consistent. The problem would be that the government is secretly injecting the population for nefarious reasons, which would be a valid concern if there were any truth to it.
QingQangQong, Just like complete FSD is only a year away... And how about that Cybertruck
Clairvoidance, (edited ) given Tesla's trackrecord, paraplegics beware!
obviously other ways get less coverage because it's not as excitingly scifi as propping metal in your brain, but I think I would rather a CTRL-Labs armwrist even if it is owned by Facebook
if you're excited about this kind of stuff I would recommend reading more about OpenBCI, or y'know, anything that already has results within moving things with a thought.
I would sooner look to VR (as soon as we get commercial batteries that can keep up) to be the replacement 'second brain' for a computer if we're talking about the idea he once talked about accessing the internet from anywhereIf Neuralink can prove its device is safe in humans, it would still take several years, potentially more than a decade, for the start-up to secure commercial use clearance, experts earlier told Reuters. The company is also competing with other neurotech companies which have already implanted their devices in people.
like idk journalists should stop talking about Neuralink, all it does is risk stocks related to Musk go up, though this one is soberingly skeptical.
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