I think some people may be concerned about my lack of post history. I swear I’m a lemmy lurker for 8 months now, but I saw this girl that could use help, and you guys are the best people I could think of to share it to. She hasn’t even shared this gofundme with me, I happened across it on a Twitter post and saw it didn’t have any activity.
Additionally, the state argued that Ms. Wood’s identity itself was at odds with the state’s teachings on gender and sexuality, and thus she could be barred.
Wait, are trans people barred from working in Florida schools? Are they saying it’s illegal to be trans??
Mercury Stardust (Trans-Handy m’am on youtube) is hosting a live charity stream Mar 29-31 for this exact cause.
I recommend donations go through her and all needs directed the same. I say this as a trans refugee who’s been homeless for 6months. I get where this person is at, but direct aid is not always the best thing, especially for someone still under a disapproving roof.
@KillingAndKindess@Kjev hello am Jordan Zeus a trans man living in South Sudan as a refugee an I kindly need help my house was damaged by the harsh weather and I now sleep outside here in the refugee camp and I also lack good and I can’t afford hospital bills , Sudan is a war country and me as a transgender person I go through alot I have been arrested many times cause of my sexuality am so much traumatized
Just wanted to let you know that government hospitals have schemes for free MTF surgery. I think that your friend is probably apprehensive about the quality of treatment, which is understandable. In that case, they should check out hospitals in nearby tier 2 and 3 cities.
I’m feeling a little divided here. On one hand I definitely don’t look at trans people like there’s something wrong with them, or that there’s some sort of mental illness involved. But I also don’t know how I feel about giving hormone therapy to someone who’s not considered an adult. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but certain hormone therapy treatments can cause permanent effects on the body, that if the individual who received it were to for some reason decide the therapy was a mistake, are unreversable. It feels like we have to find that fine line between not infringing on people’s rights to be themselves, but also not let children make life altering decisions with reckless abandon.
It sounds simple on the surface, but I struggle with weighing the risk of prescribing gender-affirming care to someone who will regret it later in life and forcing someone to endure puberty that they will regret later in life. A strong case can be made that some kids will identify as transgender due to childhood trauma or neurodivergence. It’s also undeniable that there are hundreds of thousands of people who regret going through puberty that doesn’t match their gender. I’d be curious to see statistical data about these groups to truly measure the risks on either side. There’s also an interesting study of neuroanatomy in trans women showing strong similarities to cisgender women. I wonder if this data can be used to help mitigate the potential risks of gender-affirming care?
they are reversable, and give time for trans kids to sort out any hesitancy towards transition without going through either puberty. so many people think that the idea lf puberty blockers is to give kids e/t when its just to give ghe kids time to discover themselves
they can, but arent exclusive to gender affirming care. in most cases, kids arent getting hormone therapy, theyre getting blockers until they get older
im in the same boat in that case, i just am so hesitant on laws being made. in the wrong hands they will be made to prevent any care (puberty blockers) when its a tiny subset of kids getting hrt in the first place
i just dont want anyone to have to go through the wrong puberty like i did, its awful
So question, if in a hypothetical situation someone was on puberty blockers until they were 21, what would happen with their body once they go off them?
I did, and I find myself largely in agreement with the author. I was citing the article and a linked source when I talked about the rare case of people who regretted transitioning. Was there a specific claim I made that the article refuted? Maybe I missed something?
Giving every single cis and trans child puberty blockers seems kinda unethical, also what about people who are never self-sufficient? Do they just not get to go through puberty? Isn’t that dangerous?
Cis people love to do polemics about “what if they end up going through the wrong puberty!!!” ignoring that this is literally what you’re forcing trans kids to go through
It’s also pretty condescending to assume that the community hasn’t already spent way more time thinking about how to deal with such a complex problem that effects them so much.
It’s always best to ask questions first before jumping to conclusions.
Defining mental illness is tricky. Typically one important feature of mental illness is personal distress. Given that lots of trans people seem to be distressed about their gender identity, or the sex of their bodies, I don’t see why it’s incorrect to call that distress mental illness. It seems like the problem here is the stigmatization of mental illness in general. Even if being trans was a symptom of mental illness, this doesn’t mean the best way to treat someone who’s trans isn’t gender affirming-care.
That’s why the first thing they’re given are puberty blockers to give them more time to make such an incredibly important decision. If the permanent effects of being given hormones for the wrong sex is so damaging and severe, it goes both ways. The permanent effects of doing nothing and becoming the wrong gender is just as bad as if you made a mistake and we’re given the wrong hormones.
I think the policy of delaying it is the right choice. That gives more time to provide mental health treatment and provide as much assurance that they’re making the right choice to live their lives in the body they feel most comfortable in. I assure you, everyone is acutely aware of the repercussions and permanence of making the wrong decision which is why time is prioritized over providing hormone treatment early.
Conservatives trying to ban all trans care including puberty blockers, and taking away that time I view as equally as bad as forcing a child to take the wrong hormone drugs.
No offense, but you should ask these questions first before assuming that the community that is so affected by these problems and have spent a ton of time thinking about it and considering options hasn’t already explored the problem in detail already. Your concerns are valid, but you should ask how these problems are being dealt with instead of assuming they aren’t being dealt with.
@A_Toasty_Strudel@gAlienLifeform recent study shows that only %1 percent of trans youth detransition and not all of them are detransitioning because they made a mistake. Even between these people who detransition, they are still happy that they got to try and transition. There are lots of studies backing up starting transition early. If I was able to I would have started before going through the wrong puberty and the changes puberty makes are irreversible. Being a trans is not a mental health, they treated it as mental health and didn't help at all. Why so much stigma around transitioning when the satisfaction for this treatment is one of the highest in any kind of medical procedure?
That in itself doesn’t say what your position in any particular treatment is. A lot of people want to say any medical intervention requires informed consent, as if whatever happens without medical intervention is always fine and doesn’t require consent. Clearly nobody believes that, though, or pediatric medicine as a whole would be illegal.
What really bothers me is when people demand a higher level of informed consent for gender-affirming care then they do for other medical interventions. That, to me, says their issue is but actually consent, but rather that they have an issue with trans people that they think justifies interfering with strangers’ medical care. I, on the other hand, take a hard line that medical decisions should never be made by politicians, and banning a particular kind of care is absolutely a medical decision that contracts medical best practices.
Unpopular opinion ahead. I would like to see the person emerge from the child into a personality prior to allowing chemical intoxicants or gender rectification or anything unnatural to the maturation of the child into a person.
Then whatever the fuck they want to do is completely up to them.
Puberty blockers exist to give the option to change more time before puberty does significant alterations to a person.
Essentially, it buys time for younger trans people to be certain of their choices and minimize the (already remote) possibility of de-transitioning being needed.
There is also no evidence of any significant negative side-effects from the treatment.
Well, for good or ill, kids are treated differently because they don’t have the full ability to give meaningful consent. That includes a lot more than medical issues, but it includes medical issues.
With that standard in place, and it should be, there’s no reason someone being trans should be treated any different than any other major procedures/treatments.
Now, that’s absolutely only as regards medical issues. And “puberty blockers” are a necessary exception since the dangers of that not being available far outweigh any minor risks from the medication. Any changes that aren’t medical other than that are between the kid, their parents, and their doctors as consultants. The rest of us have no business interfering in that.
Cool that you don’t care about using even the minuscule amount of power you hold in a democracy to vote for something better. That position makes you the bad guy btw.
There is no state or county that only has the party of Capital on the ballot. So just don’t vote for the party of Capital at the ballot box. You can and should do more stuff outside of voting, but as far as voting, do not vote for the party of Capital. If you do vote for the party of Capital you are telling them that your rights are negotiable. That you will support them unconditionally, and most importantly, the people who prove by their actions they obviously do not care about human rights, will continue to be in a position to block out anyone else that could possibly care about human rights.
Don’t bother engaging with this guy. He’s problematic. Vote blue this time and work toward better representation later. We can’t change the broken system overnight.
Vote blue this time and work toward better representation later.
That’s exactly what you all said in 2020. And 2016. And you’ll be saying it again in 2028. Atleast be honest about it; don’t the “it’s just this time” thing.
Who cares? It’s not our fault you’re not mature enough to make the best decision out of 2 bad decisions. Poor baby didn’t get what he wanted so he’s gonna shit his diaper and throw a fit. Go ahead. Vote for Trump or third party or a hot dog. No one cares anymore just fucking stop talking.
Well voting in the general election is binary. There are no other choices than Republican or Democrat. You have to choose between those two or it’s effectively the same as not voting.
So it’s not just this time. It’s every time because of how the electoral system in America works.
The system isn’t broken. That’s what liberals don’t get. Its working exactly as its intended to. Learn the history of the US and tell me this isn’t exactly what all those who set it up intended it to be. Where are all the Buffalo where are all the dead tribes of people whose land, settlers and colonists took. The few that survive have little culture left or live on RES’s. You can’t fix a fascist empire with voting and doing little else.
I can’t fucking stand anyone that uses the word liberal. I know this shit is working the way it’s supposed to. I know that violent revolution is the only way to make change. I also know that people that use the word liberal aren’t the ones that should have input on revolution.
I’ll be spending my trans ass time setting up mutual aid for food, housing and meds for all I can. You can vote for whatever wealthy fuck you want. We don’t live in a democracy. We live in a republic with a fascist ideology. What’s the headcount of babies in cages after biden? More than Trump. They are all the same, Fascist bastards. The Democrats are no better they just hide it better. I’m not saying don’t do anything, just that the liberal is the same as the rest. And focus on something helpful instead of a cult of blue hoping checking a box will save people.
Voting for a third party is simultaneously voting blue and red, if you listen to the blues they tell you it’s a red vote while the reds are in your other ear complaining you just voted blue. The fact that it pisses off both the republicans and the democrats frankly is an indication that I have made the correct decision.
It should be the correct decision, but when the realistic options are maintaining the (lukewarm at best) status quo and genocide we kinda dont get to make the correct decision unfortunately
Politics is similar to the ecological structure and development of a forest. You begin with grasses which shield fledgling shrubs from the elements. The shrubs eventually push out the grass and make way for trees that push out the shrubs and then trees that push out the earlier trees. Then fire and flooding that brings you back to step 2.5. Focus on trees after you slit the stem of every single shrub and hope fire doesn’t set you back after.
In a vacuum, absolutely. With human meddling inadvertently causing hotter, longer, broader, and more frequent fires, natural fires can cause a full or partial reset more frequently. Except in aus. Eucalyptus is future-proof. Just like politics, ecology finds people are the problem.
This such a white western take. Indigenous peoples all around the world have been using fire to benefit ecology. People are not the problem. White fascist, colonial actions and ideals are the issue.
Yeah cause reverse racism exists and talking about the history of the world and how your view point is clearly skewed by racism colonialism and white fascism is totally racism in of itself.
Reminds me of a conversation I had a decade ago about “reverse rape.” It’s just rape. Academic study of racism hasn’t made “power+prejudice” the de facto definition and, as a result, it’s ostensibly racist to say “white western take.” I say this, once again, while agreeing with you.
Gia Drew, Executive Director of Equality Maine, stated in an interview with Erin In The Morning that the bill was “probably not the right fit” for Maine and that “the climate has changed” over the issue, pointing to some of the complexities within the bill as well as outside disinformation attacks. When asked why the bill wasn’t amended to make it a better fit, she stated that she did not know why that route was not chosen.
Drew did express hope, however, for future versions of the legislation and pointed to prior successes, stating, “We were able to pass one of the most historic laws last year in that same committee.” The state had previously passed a law that allowed trans youth above the age of 16 to consent to gender affirming care without parental approval.
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