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HowMany, in Germany passes landmark self-ID law: 'trans people exist and deserve recognition'

Germany realizes it takes all its citizens to make a country.

Tywele, in Germany passes landmark self-ID law: 'trans people exist and deserve recognition'

Can’t wait to change my name and gender marker on my birthday!

sin_free_for_00_days, in Anti-Trans Missouri A.G. Can Now Access Trans People’s Medical Records

“There is no more important fight than to ensure Missouri is the safest state in the nation for children. No stone will be left unturned in these investigations.”

Real Peacemaker vibes.

MossyFeathers, in Transvestigation: What to Know About the Bizarre and Transphobic Conspiracy Theory

I’m kind surprised people haven’t picked this up and started doing it ironically. It seems right up Tumblr’s alley to jokingly create conspiracies about different celebrities of being trans.

OneWomanCreamTeam, in Anti-Trans Missouri A.G. Can Now Access Trans People’s Medical Records

That’s fucking terrifying. I can’t believe people still won’t accept that this is a genocide on progress.

Rottcodd, in Anti-Trans Missouri A.G. Can Now Access Trans People’s Medical Records

Holy shit - look at that face.

You can see it in every line and wrinkle - that’s not just an expression he made at some point - it’s his normal resting expression.

That’s the face of a man who has spent his entire life being angry and hateful.

lettruthout, in Anti-Trans Missouri A.G. Can Now Access Trans People’s Medical Records

That will be really useful when he’s looking for a date.

GardenVarietyAnxiety, in Tennessee Senate Passes Bill Making "Recruiting" For Trans Youth Care A Felony

AMENDMENT #1 rewrites the bill to, instead, provide that an adult who recruits, harbors, or transports an unemancipated minor within this state for the purpose of receiving a prohibited medical procedure that is for the purpose of enabling the minor to identify with, or live as, a purported identity inconsistent with the minor’s sex or treating purported discomfort or distress from a discordance between the minor’s sex and asserted identity, regardless of where the medical procedure is to be procured commits a Class C felony.

This amendment does not apply to: (i) a parent or legal guardian of an unemancipated minor; (ii) an adult who has permission from the unemancipated minor’s parent or legal guardian; or (iii) the provision of a medical diagnosis described in the law relevant to medical procedures for minors. Additionally, it is not a defense to prosecution under this amendment that the unemancipated minor consented to the actions.

While it’s still a bill to generate trans panic, and fuck them 100% for that, I still feel it’s important to be angry at the right things.

This bill only targets people who would do something like this to a child without a legal guardian’s permission.

I don’t really believe that it’s happening enough to make a fucking law about it, if at all. But fuck them still.

Cypher,

The next step will be extreme demonisation of parents of trans people followed by laws targeting the parents.

Basically their goal is to make the parents the only legal means to access medical care but put the parents at risk of breaking convoluted laws by doing so.

Trans healthcare will be “legal” but with so many complicated laws it will be impossible to avoid breaking some of them.

GardenVarietyAnxiety,

Trust me, I understand the play here. But Imagine you’re just an average cis person and your trans friend sends you that article.

You read it and you’re angry. “How can they treat human beings like this??”

So you go read the bill.

Kids can’t be taken across state lines for gender affirming medical procedures without the consent of their parents.

“Oh… Erin must not have read it thoroughly. This sounds reasonable to me.”

And I know this happens because a political podcaster, who is a very intelligent cis guy who I respect, did exactly this about Don’t Say Gay.

We need to tell people -why- these laws are dangerous without falling into our own panic.

We need to point out how they all seem to try to “solve” problems that don’t exist, or just scapegoat us.

Cypher,

We need to tell people -why- these laws are dangerous without falling into our own panic.

I’m not sure what about my take on the likely tactic here is striking you as panic.

I have exactly zero stake in this as I’m not from the USA and was merely making an observation.

GardenVarietyAnxiety,

I’m saying Erin’s post comes across as “panic” because to someone who might care, but is less informed, it seems to be missing some context

Diplomjodler3,

No matter how it’s worded, this is absolutely going to be used to prosecute people who provide healthcare to trans minors in good faith.

GardenVarietyAnxiety,

Trust me, I understand the play here. But Imagine you’re just an average cis person and your trans friend sends you that article.

You read it and you’re angry. “How can they treat human beings like this??”

So you go read the bill.

Kids can’t be taken across state lines for gender affirming medical procedures without the consent of their parents.

“Oh… Erin must not have read it thoroughly. This sounds reasonable to me.”

And I know this happens because a political podcaster, who is a very intelligent cis guy who I respect, did exactly this about Don’t Say Gay.

We need to tell people -why- these laws are dangerous without falling into our own panic.

We need to point out how they all seem to try to “solve” problems that don’t exist, or just scapegoat us.

jsomae,

I think you double-commented

GardenVarietyAnxiety,

Yeah, it felt wrong, lol

I just wanted to reply the same thing to both of them

neo, in Germany passes landmark self-ID law: 'trans people exist and deserve recognition'

I don’t know. You can’t really proof that other people than me exist. /s

antonim, in Germany passes landmark self-ID law: 'trans people exist and deserve recognition'

A friend of mine has a trans gf from Germany so he explained this quite nicely to me today. There are still two relatively peripheral issues. One is that surnames can’t be changed, which is a problem for anyone from a language with gender-marked surnames (e.g. Russian, Ukrainian, Czech). It’s not an acceptable situation neither with regards to gender nor to grammar (masculine name + feminine surname is just… wrong). The other is that apparently when transitioning you have to change your name, which shouldn’t be necessary for those with gender neutral names that they’d prefer to keep.

Still, it’s a big and nice step forward.

lea,

The other is that apparently when transitioning you have to change your name, which shouldn’t be necessary for those with gender neutral names that they’d prefer to keep.

I think you can keep it now if it’s gender neutral! But I still think it shouldn’t be any of their business to judge whether your name matches your gender identity, it’s pretty personal.

flora_explora,

I’m trans and from Germany. I don’t get what you mean by “when transitioning you have to change your name”. How do you define “transition” then? Who is stopping you from transitioning?

The underlying problem, and you are right there, is that this new ability to self-ID does not touch on any of the laws of anyone’s medical transition. Germany is a country with a more or less working health insurance system that covers most medical expenses. However, although medical transition is definitely necessary for the wellbeing of trans people most health insurances won’t pay for much of your transition. HRT is pretty straightforward to get and as long as you go to enby-friendly endocrinologists you won’t have that much of a problem getting HRT under your old name etc. Speech therapy is even easier to get. But anything like surgery or other medical procedures like laser/electric epilation hair removal are really hard to get covered by a health insurance. In case of gender affirming surgery, you often need to prove the health insurance how binary trans you are and that you really want to transition all the way. With hair removal they usually would pay for it, but only to doctors on a rate that no doctor would agree on.

I know trans people in various stages of their transition and changing their names is not something that anyone had to do. And if you happen to have a gender neutral name, you certainly don’t have to change it.

WalrusDragonOnABike,

Given the context, it would be terms of legally transitioning someone’s gender marker.

No clue how true it is. I think this is the proposal for the law, but I don’t know German, so finding the actual bill seems challenging: perma.cc/DML8-XWED

S2 paragraph 3 seems to say they may choose 1 or more names, but idk the nuances of the language to know if that means choosing 0 new names is not allowed?

flora_explora,

I searched a bit more online but couldn’t find any more information on this. The text you shared is from last year. But even in there change of one’s gender marker isn’t linked to a change in name. The linked text even talks about changing the name or gender marker.

zaphod,

The final version of §2 (3) SBGG is linked on bundestag.de/…/kw15-de-geschlechtseintrag-997406

Mit der Erklärung nach Absatz 1 sind die Vornamen zu bestimmen, die die Person zukünftig führen will und die dem gewählten Geschlechtseintrag entsprechen.

flora_explora,

Ah OK, that clarifies it then. Thanks!

I think overall it is a huge win for all TIN people, although it is unfortunate how rigid rules for names and gender still are…

antonim,

Thank you, it’s possible he or his gf misunderstood some aspect of the law. I pretty much just retold what my friend told me. I’ll definitely ask them both for details when I get the opportunity.

zaphod,

Surnames can always be changed if there’s an important reason. You could argue that this would be the case if you have a gendered surname. Worst case someone has to sue to get precedent on this.

geissi, (edited )

masculine name + feminine surname is just… wrong

I don’t quite understand what you mean.
The surname is the family name and is typically not gendered in Germany.

Edit: I seem to have completely blanked out on the preceding sentence about other origins. I can see that this might be an issue.

antonim,

Right, that’s why I listed several languages where the surname is gendered, and people who are native to those languages (including their naming conventions) also live in Germany. Especially today, considering the exodus of Ukrainians.

For example, the current president of Ukraine is called Zelensky. His wife, who took up his surname, is called Zelenska. Or, there’s Putin, and his mother/sister/wife/daughter have or would have the surname Putina. The -y and “null” endings are masculine, -a is feminine.

geissi,

Sorry, had a brainfart.

pandacoder,

And if you are from a country that has gendered surnames, you live in Germany, and are trans?

Immersive_Matthew, in Tennessee Senate Passes Bill Making "Recruiting" For Trans Youth Care A Felony

Draconian.

disguy_ovahea, (edited ) in Germany passes landmark self-ID law: 'trans people exist and deserve recognition'

Somewhere between 1945 and now, Germany and the US decided to slowly trade places.

and I want to trade back

Jokes aside, congrats on the progressive legislation!

Edit: No, I don’t mean I wish the US to return to 1945.🙄 I’m simply saying Germany has continued to become more socially progressive while the US has been struggling with authoritarianism.

captainlezbian,

We ran out of cool Germans and Germany has replenished their supply

RootBeerGuy,
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and I want to trade back

You are in the US, right?

unreachable,
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glacier,
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No one switched places. The US was really racist, misogynist, and homophobic in 1945. In recent years Germany has become more liberal and accepting than the US.

jsomae,

Ok but Germany in 1945 was something else.

Turun,

Yeah, it was French, British, American and Russian (USSRian) at that point!

jsomae,

touché. I meant the first half lol.

Woozythebear,

Germany so progressive they arresting Jewish people for expressing freedom of speech to speak out against the genocide in Gaza. Sooooooo progressive.

disguy_ovahea, (edited )

SCOTUS just ruled against right to assemble in the US. So you can call that one a tie.

Glowy, in Would you like to help a girl in need?
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I think some people may be concerned about my lack of post history. I swear I’m a lemmy lurker for 8 months now, but I saw this girl that could use help, and you guys are the best people I could think of to share it to. She hasn’t even shared this gofundme with me, I happened across it on a Twitter post and saw it didn’t have any activity.

Beaver, in Trans-Resources.Info is a directory of advocacy organizations, legal resources, support & social groups, and other resources that serve transgender people
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This directory is well really good to send to all your trans friendos all over the world.

xilliah, in "Florida Has A 1st Amendment Problem" - Judge Rules Trans Teacher Can Use "Ms."

“Ours is a Union of individuals, celebrating ourselves and singing ourselves and being ourselves without apology.” - awesome judge

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