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Ciderpunk, in Texas AG Threatens Seattle Hospital With Jail Unless It Provides Trans Patient Data

This is literally what the civil war was fought over. Southern states making shitty laws and attempting to enforce them over the will of northern states. The south lost the first time, and they’ll lose again.

Transporter_Room_3,

I was raised not far from where William T Sherman was born.

I feel a strong urge for southern BBQ and a nice stroll coming on. I might go visit the sea.

downpunxx,
downpunxx avatar

no, the civil war was fought over ending human slavery, disassociate at your peril

Osa-Eris-Xero512,

Yes, that was the law in question

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

OP slept through US history class.

AnonTwo,

To be fair I think he's trying to step on the ol south "The war wasn't about slavery, it was about state's rights"

when really it's "It was about Slavery and state's rights", because the laws in particular all revolved around slavery.

HuddaBudda,
HuddaBudda avatar

It was, but people don't just blow without a reason. It is usually a buildup problems until they are too much to take.

In this case, it had a lot to do with the underground railroad and slaves fleeing to the north. The South wanted those slaves back and threatened to split from the north if those slaves weren't returned. The north saw them as people and declined.

The rest is history.

MuThyme, in Conservatives Are Now Blaming Science For Low Trans Regret Rates

I feel like the reason the left doesn’t make a sport out of “triggering the right” is because they already live in reality, conservatives are triggered every time they wake up.

Cylusthevirus,
Cylusthevirus avatar

Imagine being upset when basic facts and the general opinion of a given profession doesn't line up with whatever's on Newsmax this week.

captainlezbian,

Also just like, it isn’t fun to make people angry for no reason. Either they’re a bigot or they’re an insane person. One I’m just going to piss off by living my life the way I want to and the other I’m more concerned about than anything. Making people angry just isn’t fun.

Though I will admit, I started listening to knowledge fight and listening to alex Jones does make me sorta get it.

ASprigOfSage, in Georgia Senator Vows to Protect Girl, But Then Runs Away After Learning She Is Trans

What a pathetic piece of shit. The senator backed away stating “You’re attacking me.” After he was informed of the 8 YEAR OLDS gender. If you’re threatened by an 8 year olds presence you need to seriously reevaluate your life. Fucking shameful.

Son_of_dad,

That senator probably thought “I’m a pedo but I’m not gay!!” And got offended when he learned the little girl was born a boy.

ImTryingLemmy, in Texas AG Threatens Seattle Hospital With Jail Unless It Provides Trans Patient Data

He’s not even thinking this through to a logical end. If this is legal (and I really doubt it is) wouldn’t that mean that Texans can be sued by anyone in a state with more restrictive gun laws if a gun sold in Texas ended up being used in a crime elsewhere? What about training? Ammunition?

What a buffoon.

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

This isn’t about logic, it’s about posturing for their base.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

If these pricks had logic and reasoning then they wouldn’t be conservatives.

wuphysics87,

Or they would be doing exactly what they are doing. They are morally bankrupt not stupid.

ricecake,

Hell, in some states you could make the argument that denying gender affirming care is denying medically necessary treatment.

State of Washington should counter sue Texas hospitals for their failure to provide adequate and fair treatment.

deo,

Well, now I know what to ask from Santa for Christmas.

VikingHippie,

you could make the argument that denying gender affirming care is denying medically necessary treatment.

Because it is.

ricecake,

That’s what makes it so easy to argue. :)

It definitely is ethically, but I don’t know that every state has legal provisions that would protect it in the same way that something like a heart procedure would be.

VikingHippie,

Yeah, that’s pretty emblematic of how seriously most of the country’s politicians take mental health 😮‍💨

To the GOP ones like Paxton, it’s good for deflecting from the need for common sense gun control and for distortions to claim that everyone not exactly like them are unhinged, but when it comes to actually HELPING PEOPLE and by extension all of society (including their precious economy that overwhelmingly favor the rich and powerful such as themselves), they want nothing to do with it 🤬

pelespirit, in Fox News and GOP politicians falsely claim Lakewood Church shooter was transgender
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

If we’re going there, she was a parishioner and the first thing I thought of, who molested her or her son.

I should clarify something, I’m saying they’re trying to hide something by making up stuff.

Bob_Robertson_IX,

I’m saying they’re trying to hide something

I want to see the video. From everything I’ve heard the only people shot during this shooting was by the police. I want to see proof that she actually fired her gun and wasn’t just killed for having brown skin and holding a gun.

TWeaK,

I’m more sickened by the idea that the police might have shot her son in the head as some sort of distraction.

ArmoredThirteen, in Over 90,000 Satisfied Responses In Trans Survey; Largest Detrans Survey Only Had 100

I’m getting The Surgery ™️ this coming summer, hoping I can stay ahead of the bigots’ increasingly cruel laws. Donate to relevant causes if you can, protest, if a bigot happens to put their face in the way of a brick that’s great too.

I have a bunch of extended family who are all insufferable and get way too personal when asking about my transness. I’m sick of it but I’ll always repeat my lived experiences to them because I know if I don’t they’ll get their understanding of the topics from people who want to see me dead.

LegionEris, (edited ) in Some conservatives say transgender people regret surgery. A new study says otherwise

In fact, one systematic review found that the average prevalence of surgical regret was 14.4% among all research studies analyzed

Holy shit that’s actually crazy to me. [I actually tracked down that number because I was so curious] (onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/…/s00268-017-3895-9) It’s over half cancer surgery. I’ve known that the regret rate for transition surgery was low for a long time, but that piece of context kinda blows my mind. You’re more likely to regret a variety of life saving procedures than gender affirming surgery, and it’s often by insane orders of magnitude.

jahashar,

And even the rare case of transition regret, it’s usually because 1. lack of peer group, 2. social condemnation and 3. your family now hates you.

Not because of the procedure, but because of the assholes around you. (This by one older Swedish study on the subject).

It’s a literal miracle cure. Any sane doctor would jump for it.

rah,
  1. lack of peer group, 2. social condemnation and 3. your family now hates you.

Having seen reddit.com/r/detrans what you’ve said here seems silly.

darq,
darq avatar

Worth noting that particular subreddit appears to be pretty heavily astroturfed. To the point where some detransitioners created r/actualdetrans to get away from the TERFs.

Apicnic,

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8213007/

Here’s one of the more recent meta analysis papers on it. When people who detransition are asked, the majority of the cite external factors like the ones here.

rah,

“Back in 1997, virtually no one had heard of queergender people. I couldn’t find a support system, and I couldn’t figure out how to tell people what I was.”

That would be a big discrepency. The denizens of /r/detrans generally post about contemporary detransitioning rather than detransitions from 25 years ago.

Apicnic,

I’m sorry, but if you think that there aren’t huge portions of the trans population who have no support system, then it doesn’t really feel possible to have a meaningful discussion about this with you.

rah, (edited )

if you think that there aren’t huge portions of the trans population who have no support system

Huge portions of the trans population having no support system doesn’t imply that reasons for detransitioning will include not having a support system because the lack of a support system alters the likelihood of transitioning in the first place.

if you think that there aren’t huge portions of the trans population who have no support system, it doesn’t really feel possible to have a meaningful discussion about this with you

I don’t think that and it doesn’t make sense to assume or even suspect I do, given anything I’ve said. I’ve no idea why you’ve introduced this idea into the conversation.

And even if I were to think that, what you’ve said doesn’t invalidate what I said, which was that having seen /r/detrans, the reasons given seemed silly.

Clearly it is indeed not possible for us to have a meaningful discussion.

Apicnic,

I’m not saying it implies that. I’m saying that trans people and established research both say that. Your minimal experience with one of the detrans subreddits is not more substantial of a source than first hand accounts and peer reviewed papers.

Did you spend substantial time in /r/detrans and /r/actualdetrans? Were you aware of drama around when that split happened? Discussed it in the other trans communities on the sites? Because right now, your comments make it seem like you’re a passerby who has popped into a trans community and tried to say that your interactions with one community known for astroturfing are more meaningful than decades of research.

rah,

Your minimal experience with one of the detrans subreddits is not more substantial of a source than first hand accounts and peer reviewed papers.

I haven’t claimed that it is.

more meaningful

What do you mean?

SkyeStarfall,

It’s unlikely the people who detransition because of it would be active on a detrans subreddit, because they would still consider themselves trans, and would instead be in trans subreddits for support.

The three reasons the other commenter mentioned was taken from studies done on the subject.

rah,

It’s unlikely the people who detransition because of it

Because of what? I don’t understand what you’re trying to communicate.

apotheotic,

Because of external pressures, which you originally replied to

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Even when it is the procedure, it is generally due to poor results, not the decision to have the surgery to begin with.

SatanicNotMessianic, (edited ) in Some conservatives say transgender people regret surgery. A new study says otherwise

Just a reminder for when you listen to people being presented as trans persons who regret their surgery:

Norma McCorvey - Jane Roe of Roe v Wade - was presented for decades as a devout Christian (evangelical and later Catholic) who regretted her decision. She was used as a prominent voice in the anti-abortion movement and in the attempts to overturn Roe.

She revealed on her deathbed that she was being paid to take that position. The narrative was also complicated by her 35 year relationship with Connie Gonzalez, later claiming that she was no longer a lesbian before confessing that she was paid to say that as well.

Also remember that when they call the child survivors of school shootings “paid actors,” it’s because that’s exactly the tactic they engage in.

Xariphon,

It's always projection. "Accuse your enemies of what you are guilty of."

joker125, in Moms For Liberty And Anti-Trans Republicans Suffer Massive Election Defeat Nationwide

Good. Fuck those fascists.

Grayox, (edited )
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

But but but the folks from lemmygrad told me voting cant do anything against fascists and I shouldn’t waste my time and should organize a revolution instead.

Diva,
@Diva@lemmy.ml avatar

Fuck the republicans, but if you’re only voting that’s not going to help you when these shitheads get to the point of dragging people out of their houses and disappearing them. All my girlfriends are getting strapped and organizing self-defense.

Grayox,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Hell yeah, love to hear it, i just wish my mental health was sound enough to let me stay strapped. Sold all my firearms after my father took his life. If you or your girlfriends ever have ideations, please leave your arms with a trusted comrade.

Diva,
@Diva@lemmy.ml avatar

Some of the biggest hurdles are having to interact with the police to even get a license to carry. Plus it’s expensive. Plenty of people opt to just learn to shoot, borrowing from friends.

happybadger, in Moms For Liberty And Anti-Trans Republicans Suffer Massive Election Defeat Nationwide
@happybadger@hexbear.net avatar

They lost every local campaign. Every school board race had some skinwalker cloaked as parental rights and my fairly progressive city saw right through them.

BolexForSoup, in Moms For Liberty And Anti-Trans Republicans Suffer Massive Election Defeat Nationwide
BolexForSoup avatar

Turns out most Americans really aren’t on board with the whole flagrant bigotry and bullying LGBTQ teenagers via capturing school boards thing.

SeedyOne,

Most aren’t but far, FAR too many are still pushing for it. Stay vigilant.

MelodiousFunk,
MelodiousFunk avatar

This. I am in a solidly blue district. 4 out of the 7 school board candidates, ALL of the non-incumbents, were running on some sort of "family values" or "parents' rights" platform. But their statements to media were highly scrubbed because they know to tread carefully and avoid the dog whistles. One of them unseated an incumbent (and the only POC in the group) yesterday. I'm glad the trend is going in the right direction nationally. But I wouldn't call for a victory lap just yet.

uriel238, in Conservatives Are Now Blaming Science For Low Trans Regret Rates
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is pretty consistent in conservative circles. There used to be (still is?) a lot of right-wing outrage regarding undocumented immigrants to the United States, insisting that they are a nexus of crime and a burden on the state, and yet, they actually pay more taxes per capita than the general population and have lower crime rates than the GP as well.

(The GOP doesn’t want to admit that the US likes undocumented immigrants specifically because they can be exploited as a cheap labor source, because usually it’s their own constituents doing the exploiting.)

So it’s not about sensibility or truth, it’s about alarmism and two minutes of hate to rile up their base to vote and keep them in office.

Swedneck,
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Conservatives also LOVE to forget that most developed nations rely on immigration to keep the population growth steady, which is what props up retirement and a growing economy, as well as the fact that poor immigrants are generally the people who end up doing the shitty jobs that natives don’t want to do but have to be done.

Kick the immigrants out, the economy collapses and there’s no one to clean your office, then complain that leopards ate your face!

watson387, in Conservatives Are Now Blaming Science For Low Trans Regret Rates
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar

Isn’t the title the same as saying “Conservatives refuse to accept facts?”

Kichae,

Worse than that it seems to be "Conservatives blame fact finders for finding facts".

PupBiru,
PupBiru avatar

it’s worth saying in as many ways as possible

Uranium3006,
Uranium3006 avatar

Theirs is a dead worldview propped up by money and rage. And even drill it's slowly fading. They can see it, we all know.it, and they're mad about it. They're retreating from reality to cope. It's why they go on suicide shootings. It's nihilistic lashing out by people who know their time is over and can't handle it.

Shdwdrgn, in Texas teacher suspended after anti-LGBTQ+ Libs of TikTok attack

It is our standard procedure to place a staff member on leave when we review concerns shared with the campus

So you’re not claiming that there WERE any concerns shared by actual parents, you just put a teacher on leave because you happened to see some random tiktok by a domestic terrorist and reacted without any evidence? Oh wait, we’re talking about Texas so that’s probably exactly what happened.

PuddingFeeling907,
@PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca avatar

I can’t believe the school took the side of a random instead of a local they know.

FlickOfTheBean,

That’s bigots for you. They’ll cut off and throw community members into the sacrificial fire for the sake of their panicked feelings, because treating people decently is just not one of their baseline values.

SpaceNoodle, in 'It can happen anywhere.' Indiana parents lost custody of trans teen, ask SCOTUS for help

“Loving parents,” eh? No hate so powerful as “Christian” love.

themeatbridge,

Right, and the child was removed from their care because they tried treating her eating disorder by sending her to a religious counselor to convince her she’s a boy.

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