A_A, (edited ) from that article :
Source: Peskov in an interview with RT Arabic, according to TASS propaganda news agency
Quote: "Indeed, Ukraine was heavily militarised at the time of the beginning of its [special military operation, as the Russian Federation calls the war against Ukraine – ed.]. And, as [Russian President Vladimir] Putin said yesterday, one of the tasks was to demilitarise Ukraine. In fact, this task is largely completed. Ukraine is using less and less of its weapons. And more and more it uses the weapons systems that Western countries supply it with."... so is that an excuse for the Kremlin to get the fuck out of Ukraine ?
Edit : + link of source ( in Russian )
Cal, Don't care about the reason why. Just get out.
dystop, I don't mind pretending Russia won if it means Pootin can get the fuck out of Ukraine.
sab, I mean, the only way for Putin to politically survive a retreat is to convince Russians that this catastrophic failure was actually a huge success, and their sons didn't die for nothing.
Seing them push a narrative that they have already achieved what they came there for is therefore kind of uplifting. If the Russians could leave Ukraine without losing face they would have done it months ago, and this seems to be the beginning of the effort to create such an opening.
Of course nobody in the West is going to buy it (well, almost nobody, without pointing any fingers), but much like the rest of Russian propaganda we don't really need to either. The only limit is which lies the Russian people are willing to believe, and for once I actually want them to believe this one - or at least I want the Kremlin to believe they believe it.
agressivelyPassive, This was literally the shitty joke I was thinking about when reading the headline "Well, we demilitarized them from soviet weapons". You really can't think absurdly enough for those guys.
AntennaRover, If they pull out under the pretense that Ukraine has been demilitarized, and Ukraine turns around and joins NATO, they have egg on their face. Any withdraw would still have to be predicated on assurances that Ukraine won’t join NATO, from Russia’s perspective, or they won’t be able to claim success.
A_A, One has to have been living in Russia (for years) to know (or to feel the temperature) of what they will swallow from the Kremlin. Propaganda is pushed if the Kremlin believes it will be tolerated.
MaxPower, They are looking for a way out and for keeping Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea. It won't work.
farken, The Kremlin announces that its secondary goal of demilitarising Russia has also been achieved.
little_hoarse, Are they blind?
Bobbumhug, good.
SoutWind, Good, now they can go home.
A_A, (edited ) Main Ukrainian community :
!ukraine Has it's all time highest post at ~90 votes now.
This post at ~150 votes now, that's already a landmark !Edit : Just noticed : O.P. is a bot !
Good bot !
FangedWyvern42, I wish Lemmy had an r/NonCredibleDefense equivalent.
Osa-Eris-Xero512, Be the change you want to see?
A_A, it already has ... it is here :
!noncredibledefenseOn top of that this actual post is cross-posted in there 👍
ME5SENGER_24, Kremlin: We have done a great job of removing all legacy equipment from the Ukrainian military
Kiev: All that old shit is in the trash and now we’ve got all this new fancy technology to shove up Putin’s ass. Bring it bitches
Kremlin: Er, ehm, that was the plan. But you cannot attack us, or it will be war. Hey NATO tell them they can’t attack us…please!
Kiev: Slava!
quortez,
trachemys, Mission Accomplished comrades, time to go home!
Weirdmusic,
bluebarcode, Putin announced two goals: demilitarization and denazification. If demilitarization is complete they will complete denazification by removing Russian Army from all the occupied territories of Ukraine. Another job well done, Putin!
Corran1138, I wonder if the irony is lost on them?
demonmariner, We should mail him a "mission accomplished" banner and a green screen backdrop of a battleship deck.
Pirately, Congrats. So you can fuck off now, right?
SillyJester, I hope this is the beginning of the end of the conflict. 🙏
A_A,
fingers cross
that would be such a relief !
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