Source: Peskov in an interview with RT Arabic, according to TASS propaganda news agency Quote: "Indeed, Ukraine was heavily militarised at the time of the beginning of its [special military operation, as the Russian Federation calls the war against Ukraine – ed.]. And, as [Russian President Vladimir] Putin said yesterday, one of the tasks was to demilitarise Ukraine. In fact, this task is largely completed. Ukraine is using less and less of its weapons. And more and more it uses the weapons systems that Western countries supply it with."
... so is that an excuse for the Kremlin to get the fuck out of Ukraine ?
I mean, the only way for Putin to politically survive a retreat is to convince Russians that this catastrophic failure was actually a huge success, and their sons didn't die for nothing.
Seing them push a narrative that they have already achieved what they came there for is therefore kind of uplifting. If the Russians could leave Ukraine without losing face they would have done it months ago, and this seems to be the beginning of the effort to create such an opening.
Of course nobody in the West is going to buy it (well, almost nobody, without pointing any fingers), but much like the rest of Russian propaganda we don't really need to either. The only limit is which lies the Russian people are willing to believe, and for once I actually want them to believe this one - or at least I want the Kremlin to believe they believe it.
This was literally the shitty joke I was thinking about when reading the headline "Well, we demilitarized them from soviet weapons". You really can't think absurdly enough for those guys.
If they pull out under the pretense that Ukraine has been demilitarized, and Ukraine turns around and joins NATO, they have egg on their face. Any withdraw would still have to be predicated on assurances that Ukraine won’t join NATO, from Russia’s perspective, or they won’t be able to claim success.
One has to have been living in Russia (for years) to know (or to feel the temperature) of what they will swallow from the Kremlin. Propaganda is pushed if the Kremlin believes it will be tolerated.
if I read that correctly and if it is true it would mean that ...
the Kremlin is seeking an excuse to get the fuck out of Ukraine without losing face in front of their own population.
Yeah, when you see totally barmy stuff like this from Russian media it's usually not particularly intended to convince people like you, it's meant for internal consumption.
Is Pravda a good informative source? This website says they have mixed factuality.
That being said, Russian government can eat my ass. They are so fucking delusional, I can feel their society is closer to collapse and hopefully their leadership all die slow painful deaths.
My understanding, and I am nothing like an expert in Russian media so salt to taste, is that Pravda is at least government affiliated, so they have a checkered history with respect to the truth but can be assumed to accurately report what it is that the government wants to project.
Totally reasonable concern, fuck Russia but Pravda does have a bit of a vested interest in their reporting to say the least. In this case they're just actually reporting what was said on a Russian propaganda outlet. Disclaimer, I know zero Russian, but a Google translate of the Russian propaganda news networks seems to confirm that Pravda is being factual and this is what Russia is saying.
Very good news ! if that trend goes on it will be such a relief !
Like you wrote, here the Ukrainian Pravda refers to the original which is an official Russian source : TASS original in Russian
"In fact, this task is largely completed. Ukraine is using less and less of its weapons. And more and more it uses the weapons systems that Western countries supply it with."
So they've used up the old soviet weapons and now using modern western weapons.
As for supplying weapons. America is happy to. We are trying to give away tanks like they are kittens!
Lol, sorry. I was joking on the notion of giving tanks away like kittens, and how there might be a tank-lady similar to the stereotype of a cat-lady that has way too many cats.
Putin announced two goals: demilitarization and denazification. If demilitarization is complete they will complete denazification by removing Russian Army from all the occupied territories of Ukraine. Another job well done, Putin!
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