jinarched,
@jinarched@lemm.ee avatar

(x) Doubt

Godric,

How do I link the Noncredibledefense community?

Passerby6497,

So in Russian terms, that’s like 40-60 years right? We’re two years into a couple week special operation, so I doubt that they’ll be anywhere close to being able to take on an entire military alliance by 2030 when they can barely handle a single former client state.

gigachad,

Ah yes, politico, Germanys most credible news agency /s

Reverendender,

NATO would wipe the floor with them, at any point in time.

InFerNo,

Yet still, unnecessary deaths on both sides

thecrotch,

If nuclear powers went to war they would, together, hand in hand, wipe the floor with the human race. We’re talking about the potential for 9000 nukes to get launched in this hypothetical war.

MarcoPOLO,

lol the modlog from this post is hilarious

mods really trying to censor Russia because they’re pro-Russia shills

salvador,

What else to do? NATO is the one who been encroaching to the Russian borders for decades, even though it promissed it would never expand.

The good part is most of the arsenal of NATO has been destroyed and used up on Ukraine. Perfect timing.

orgrinrt,

”Most of the arsenal of NATO”?

That’s just ridiculous. Not a single NATO country has compromised their own defense for this, which can be argued to be a bad or a good thing from either side, and most everyone’s been buying up new gear and investing heavily on new tech; they are, with a few minor exceptions, basically sending the scraps that’d go to landfill if it wasn’t convenient-ish to send them to Ukraine instead….

Passerby6497,

NATO encroachment

Promise to never expand

Arsenal being used up

Oh wow, a full hand of Russian propaganda! I bet you’ll get an extra couple rubles for this post, daddy vladdy loves cramming in all kinds of bullshit into a single package.

Theprogressivist, (edited )
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

Lol, ah the encroachment talking point. NATO doesn’t force countries to join. Maybe if Russia was a better neighbor, they wouldn’t have to worry about the Baltics requesting to join. Fucking chud. Also there was NEVER a promise. That talking point has been disproven over and over.

salvador,

How do you know whether NATO forces the countries to join or not? From the TV and news? Or have you been in the meetings and heard all the details?

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

As you can clearly see there is an application you have to fill out you fucking dunce.

salvador,

So a country can’t be forced to fill out an application whilst pretending, for the public, that it’s done so voluntarily?

You cocky cock of a wet dog

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

No, a country can not be forced to join NATO. Sorry to break your pathetic attempt of an argument.

salvador,

You can’t possibly know this and have no evidence.

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

And you think you’re right? Where’s your proof chump?

salvador,

The proof is the fact that NATO has exapanded, since 1990. For whatever reason. You clean home crocodile

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe Russia should stop being horrible neighbors?

salvador,

Maybe Europe and Ukraine should stop being horrible neighbours of Russia?

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, won’t someone think about poor Russia?

A_A, (edited )
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the 8 sources of these 3 (or more) related stories :

From Germany you had 3 more sources which were :
Russian spring offensive could lead to war with Nato, according to German defence scenario intellinews.com/russia-could-attack-nato-as-early…

Germany warns of Russian attack on NATO within ‘5-8 years’ www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/…/3113783

Leaked German military documents laid out a doomsday scenario where Russia wins in Ukraine then invades Europe
businessinsider.com/leaked-military-docs-envision…

2 from Poland :
‘Europe will be subject to a direct Russian attack in the next few years’ — Polish PM Tusk news.yahoo.com/europe-subject-direct-russian-atta…

Polish PM warns of possible Russian aggression against Europe …rbc.ua/…/polish-pm-warns-of-possible-russian-agg…

and 2 from Estonia:
Europe has 3-5 years to prepare for threat from Russia’s side - Estonian PM www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/15/7437368/

Russia’s attack on NATO - Kaja Kallas says there is 3-5 years to prepare and calls for stopping Putin in Ukraine
eng.obozrevatel.com/…/news-there-are-3-5-years-to…

Edits : added the one i missed. 2nd ed: corrected source.

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And the more authoritarians win in Europe and the US the faster that time line is accelerated

zephyreks,

I love mod drama 🍿

Radicalized,

I can almost guarantee that NATO will do some tricky “in order to defend NATO countries we must attack Russia first” business.

nova_ad_vitum,

When that doesn’t happen I can definitely guarantee that you will learn nothing and pretend like you never held this moronic opinion.

Radicalized, (edited )

“I can’t possible be on the bad guy team…. We’re the good guys!!”

en.wikipedia.org/…/United_States_bombing_of_the_C…

warhistoryonline.com/…/usa-only-17-years-of-peace…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état?wp…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion?wprov=…

en.wikipedia.org/…/United_States_occupation_of_Ha…

… Gosh, I’m beginning to think that a US-lead NATO might not be good for global peace and that the US government might be the most reactionary, anti-progressive polity in the modern world. I’m beginning to think that I’ve been fed lies all my life by media manufacturing consent for unjustifiable wars! Operation Desert Storm, Iraq War, WMDs, War on Terror, the Nakba, the second Nakba, the overthrow of the leftist Guatemalan government and subsequent ethnic cleansing of the Mayan people (if you want I can keep going.) It’s almost like it has happened over and over again and Americans allies go along with it every single time because they stand to gain something from! It’s like any military organization made up of these psychopaths will only be used for destabilizing the developing world! It’s like our governments have an interest in keeping the rest of the world destabilized so that they and their supporting billionaires can profit from exploiting the world resources and labor.

(Obligatory ‘Putin is a cunt’ because people on Lemmy lack the capability to think one person can hold both these political opinions at the same time)

nova_ad_vitum,

No part of that is relevant to your absurd claim .

mazigoth,

I see this as an absolute win

GoodEye8,

Appropriate user name.

Radicalized,

Yeah, that’s why I took this username.

afraid_of_zombies,

🥔

Enjoy potato and take a day off.

lolcatnip,

I can almost guarantee you’re a Russian troll.

kimpilled,

They said, while Russia is literally in the middle of doing the sort of invasion NATO is warning against.

Shotgun_Alice,

I hope he’s not still alive by then.

AbidanYre,

Doesn’t he have cancer or was that just wishful thinking?

Death_Equity,

He likely does or did, but the waters are too muddy to have certainty.

CleoTheWizard,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Well, only for us. I’m sure the intelligence community knows.

CitizenKong,

Maybe he’ll become as paranoid as Stalin and kill all his doctors. Once can hope. (Sucks for the doctors of course.)

wildginger,

He had some weird medical issue that some people guess is cancer. But it just as easily could have been overly cautious covid protections for all the info that gets made public

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Same story is being reposted multiple times from different sources, this one is first so keeping it and removing the others.

Hooverx,

They’re different stories about different statements from different countries. Estonia, Germany, and Poland all independently made statements, not as a single joint statement.

If this is a policy going forward, it should be listed as a rule.

A_A, (edited )
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

deleted // moving as a top comment

Mr_Blott,

There are two types of propaganda, this is one of them

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the same story. “Russia plans to attack NATO”, we get it, you don’t have to re-post it 6 times. 24 hour ban for arguing the point and abusive posting

mazigoth,

found the putin fucker

zephyreks,

I’m not even a mod here, but please be civil.

aew360,

Ok but… how? With whom?

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

And with what weapons?

Chainweasel,

They need those 5-8 years for the kids to get big enough to hold the weapons.

ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

But there won't be many more coming after that, what with all their men dead and all.

Chainweasel,

Nah, they still have all the kids they kidnapped from Ukraine and sent to Belarus

ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

Touche.

Rapidcreek,

That would be a big mistake by Putin. Could be his last. And it will take more than 8 years to even think about it. Ukraine has deflated the Russian military. It will take more than 10 years for them to rearm

TropicalDingdong,

Last? He’ll be geriatric at that point.

HollandJim,

Then? He’s geriatric now.

Ah, the miracles of plastic surgery and not moving your expression much.

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