Israeli Army Probing Death of 12 Hostages in Kibbutz Be'eri House Shelled on Orders of Senior Officer

An Israel Defense Forces General Staff team has begun investigating an incident in which 12 hostages held by Hamas terrorists were killed in the home of Pessi Cohen in Kibbutz Be'eri on October 7.

Yasmin Porat and Hadas Dagan, the only two survivors of the incident, say that the house was shelled by a tank. That has raised suspicions that Brig. Gen. Barak Hiram, the commander of the army's 99th Division who led the fighting in the kibbutz, ordered a tank crew to fire on Cohen's house even though he knew hostages were being held there.

febra, (edited )

So… they shot at their own people?

EDIT: If you’re downvoting at least tell me what wrong thing I said. As of now, it’s nothing more than a question.

bamboo,

Yes, look up the Hannibal Doctrine. Basically Israel would rather kill their own than risk them being taken as hostages.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

Let's remember that this is just one house. We have evidence this happened on a large scale during the IDF response to the attack.

NoIWontPickaName,

Fuck Israel to start with.

You got a link for that? I have seen both ways and while I can believe it happens, I would like proof to back any claims I make in the future.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israeli-hq-ordered-troops-shoot-israeli-captives-7-october

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/a-growing-number-of-reports-indicate-israeli-forces-responsible-for-israeli-civilian-and-military-deaths-following-october-7-attack/

There's more but you get the idea.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Removed. Neither electronicintifada.net nor mondoweiss.net meet our credibility standards.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

https://www.liberationnews.org/evidence-shows-israel-killed-many-of-its-own-citizens-on-oct-7-then-blamed-hamas/

There. And here's their fact check

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/liberation-news/

and the reason.

Overall, we rate Liberation News Far-Left Biased based on promoting progressive socialism. We also rate them Mostly Factual rather than High due to the one-sided hyper-partisan nature of their information.

You can also check the sources in the article yourself.

Silverseren,

The interesting thing about this is that Israel (and all of the IDF defenders across the internet) has been categorically denying that anything of this sort happened at all and have actively been calling it a conspiracy theory pushed by Hamas supporters.

Now that we have active proof it happened at least this one time, it calls into question their denial about other such claimed incidents, such as that the IDF had their helicopters just fire at anyone and everyone on the ground at the concert.

It really does seem like they went full Hannibal Doctrine.

roastedDeflator,
roastedDeflator avatar

Archive link

geneva_convenience,

Was this the only tank fire on a kibbuts or just one kibbuts that was fired at?

Silverseren,

And what about the claim that's been floating around that the IDF had their helicopters just fire at everyone and anyone at the concert area? They've been calling that a conspiracy theory, but this really calls it into question.

Altofaltception,

“Collateral damage”

“Human shields”

They will find a way to justify this, I’m sure.

SulaymanF,

“Look what you made us do!”

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