Another country has called Xi a 'dictator' and China is not happy with that description

China has lashed out at Germany after its foreign minister called Xi Jinping a “dictator” and summoned Berlin’s ambassador for a dressing down, in the latest flaring of tensions with a western democratic power over how the Chinese leader is described overseas.

itsonlygeorge,

Aww, somebody hurt Winnie the Pooh’s feelings.

honeynut,

West Taiwan -100000 social credit DAE Xinnie? XD

nicoweio,

Do remember that the same Baerbock said that we (Germany/…) are at war with Russia.

joe_cool,

She’s not exactly known for being a smart person in Germany. Whoever thought she had what it takes to be a diplomat was clearly deluded. She only got the job as foreign minister because of proportional representation.

bennieandthez,
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You said it queen 😍

gnuhaut,

In China, the people directly elect local council (e.g. village or town level) representatives. Those local council members than select who among themselves to send to represent them at the next level above. This continues all the way the National People’s Congress and the Standing Committee.

This sort of organizational structure is more-or-less how political parties in Germany also work; so by that logic the Green party itself would presumably be an undemocratic institution.

OK, but the CPC can control who is allowed to run in elections, right? Well, Germany banned its communist party: In Germany, any organization (and their members) that wants to abolish the liberal order, capitalism, private property and so on is subject to repression, surveillance and outright bans, and this is enshrined in the constitution. So no fundamental difference there either: In Germany the liberal institutions decide who can and cannot run, and they have decided the commies are out.

Empirically, the Chinese government enjoys way better approval rating than any Western government, Chinese people believe themselves to be living in a democracy, and the Chinese administration seems way more responsive to the actual needs of the people, what with the poverty reduction and all. How is this possible if they’re so much more undemocratic than Western liberal democracies?

DAMunzy,

He’s still an authoritarian cunt.

Laitinlok,

Well you have to understand the centralisation is pulling the legs of the economy in China rn

Laitinlok, (edited )

Well I think the issue is the people in China haven’t experienced the democracy in US so the comparison would be hard to measure. As funny as it gets the people in the US can laugh at Joe Biden but not those in China that could laugh at president Xi.

A note accompanying the poll results offers a disclaimer, stating that “in authoritarian countries, positive perceptions might result from different conceptions of democracy, high levels of government satisfaction, or fear of speaking out against the government.”

Krause,
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I think the issue is the people in China haven’t experienced the democracy in US

Don’t worry, the Americans haven’t either.

gnuhaut,

different conceptions of democracy

This is kind of my point. Western liberals claim their representative type of democracy is the only correct way to have democracy. But in their version of democracy, economic power allows oligarchs and corporations to own and control the media, there are countless legal (and illegal) ways to influence policy and bribe politicians, and the police and courts routinely suppress anti-capitalist and other emancipatory movements, organizations and individuals.

Giving lectures about democracy when you’re at the helm of a country that is actually ruled by the capitalist class is hypocritical.

Laitinlok,

Well at least you can criticise about it unlike some countries. You can choose who to believe, this degree of freedom is not there.

smollittlefrog,

In Germany the liberal institutions decide who can and cannot run, and they have decided the commies are out

Back in 1946, it was decided that antidemocratic parties shouldn’t be part of a democracy. Hence antidemocratic parties are illegal.

That’s it. You are very much allowed to abolish private property if you wish to do so. You’ll just have to do it in a democratic manner.

And it just so happens that abolishing private property is very much not a popular idea.

(No, the current German government can not decide who can run in elections.)

Treczoks,

Dictators were never good at hearing the truth.

computerscientistI,

Good old Ski Ski Spring.

EtzBetz,

Well that’s good old racism kind of.

sunbeam60,

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, there’s a high probability it is a duck.

Gabu,

Well, China can go fuck itself, and take Russia and the US with it.

zephyreks,

Best take I’ve seen here. The big countries in the world have way too much power. Problem is, if any one country has this amount of power, it automatically makes it so that other countries will also want to match that level of power.

crackajack,

Plenty of people would raise their eyebrows on you for mentioning the US, but you would not exactly be wrong. China and Russia are authoritarian. However, the US is a highly flawed democracy with extremely flawed and abusive foreign policy. Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has had recent precedence, with US invading Iraq out of trumped up charges. In Putin’s mind, he must have thought “if the Americans did it, why can’t I”? This is why I believe in a multipolar world.

Legendsofanus,
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From a total noob: what is a multipolar world in political terms?

crackajack,

Multipolar means there are more than two influential/great power. Personally, I think this is better than the current state of US being the sole superpower, or during the cold war when there was two rival superpowers. However, some people argue that a multipolar world is not more stable (it led to World War I). I’m not an expert myself, but since we’ve got more democracies now than the time before World War I, I would argue that a multipolar world composed of mostly democratic countries might work.

Dirk,
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If you complain about people calling you a dictator means that you’re fully aware that you are a dictator.

DragonTypeWyvern,

By that logic there are a whole bunch of Nazis on Lemmy and Hexbear is fighting the good fight.

polskilumalo,
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Nazis on Lemmy and Hexbear

I don’t what you’re smoking but that stuff must be highly neurodegenerative and I advise you to stop.

Etterra,

“Dictator” is such an ugly word. I prefer “Tyrant.” It’s much more damning.

trailing9, (edited )

Dictator is the better word because it implies a choice by the people. It’s the reason why Octavian is the first Roman emperor but every ruler wants to be a Caesar.

In a way, calling Xi a dictator recognizes his legitimization. I am sure that was not intended.

PinkPanther,

Dictator.

noun

An absolute ruler. A tyrant; a despot. An ancient Roman magistrate appointed temporarily to deal with an immediate crisis or emergency.

RGB3x3,

If it whines like a goose and goose-steps like a… goose… then maybe it’s a goose.

samus12345,
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If any country knows what a dictator is, it’s Germany.

JokeDeity,

Quit being a dictator. 🤷

gornar,
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Almost time for their final warning!

ArtVandelay,
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