Another country has called Xi a 'dictator' and China is not happy with that description

China has lashed out at Germany after its foreign minister called Xi Jinping a “dictator” and summoned Berlin’s ambassador for a dressing down, in the latest flaring of tensions with a western democratic power over how the Chinese leader is described overseas.

Aurenkin,

Xi: I really resemble that remark!

quindraco,

Very noticeable that they didn’t specify how he wasn’t a dictator, nor what other label would be more appropriate.

Chariotwheel,

Maybe she should've used the chinese word for dictator.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes, Xi Jinping

Imhotep,

That’s exactly like his name!

intensely_human,

Ah yes, Xi Jinping

casmael,

*Winnie the Pooh

Cheradenine,

Hexbear users incoming in 3.2.1…

quindraco,

I use a client that can block instances, so I have all of Hexbear blocked. It radically improves the Lemmy experience.

BirdyBoogleBop,

Whats the client?

Teppic,
Teppic avatar

Kbin allows users to do this (noting kbin isn't a client it's a compatible platform).

VentraSqwal,

Sync let’s you do it. Also possibly Connect? I forgot the other one, but i think it might be Connect.

notabot,

Yes, connect lets you block instances, but it still shows that there was a comment there and lets you show it. It’s handy to see how much you’re blocking.

spacecowboy,

Memmy app let’s you do it as well.

railsdev,

Does it? I can’t find that setting

Edit: Nevermind, I read this as Mlem

RickyRigatoni,
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Tell me your wisdom, duck of the lake.

Honytawk,
orphiebaby,

I use a Violentmonkey script to do so

Cheradenine,

I am using Eternity or Voyager, I will be so happy when instance blocking comes to those.

spacecowboy,

Give Memmy a try. I switched to it so I could block entire instances. It’s made my feed so much better!

Cheradenine,

Thanks for the recommendation, but I’m on Android, so I can’t use it. On spezit I loved, and supported Infinity, the Infinity fork Eternity is very good. I love having my own colour theme, it’s great for qol, and all the other nice features it has.

TheRealTurducken,

Sync is an outstanding Lemmy client for Android.

spacecowboy,

Apologies! I should have mentioned it was for iOS.

Cheradenine,

No worries at all

Buelldozer,
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Connect does instance blocking and I think LiftOff does as well.

Cheradenine,

I just.tried Liftoff and i did not see that option

RedWizard, (edited )
@RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Never hear a dissenting opinion. I’ll take, what is an echo chamber for $200.

zooi,

Have you ever bothered to read the rules of your instance? If I go on there and say anything negative about your cute dictator I’ll be banned. However, you can freely go on our greedy capitalist instances and praise your teddy bear as much as you want. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I guess your mind can’t comprehend being free.

RedWizard,
@RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Do you mean the rule about not being Sinophobic? Is that really a hard rule for you to follow? I like to look at objective reality instead of just barking the same nonsensical shibboleths when the topic of China arises.

zooi,

No capitalist apologia / anti-communism

You would whine even harder if lemmy.ml had No communist apologia / anti-capitalism in their rules.

RedWizard,
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Most anti-communism has no basis in reality and often are myths perpetuated by state agencies. All Anti-Capitalist sentiment is rooted in the material realities of our world and life. To deny socialist historical reality is to deny your own history, and ultimately is an admission of your disingenuous support of the truth.

Historical Materialism is truth seeking in practice. It requires you to have a fact based, objective view of our past and present.

Also I don’t know why I would whine, because I’m not using lemmy.ml. That instance can have whatever rules they want. I wouldn’t block or defederate from them because of it either. But if you are not interested in seeking the truth and objectively observing reality, then I guess you can insolate yourself from it and keep your echos.

zooi,

Kill yourself

RedWizard,
@RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Did it take you a full week to think of that reply?

Honytawk,

Just because they blocked Hexbear doesn’t mean they block all the opinions they dislike.

Hexbear is just full of radicals and trolls.

GoodEye8,

There’s differing opinions and then there’s just shittalking. When it comes to differing opinions most of Hexbear interactions deliberately (by the admission of their own users) fall under shittalking. They deliberately antagonize and troll anyone with a different opinion because in their mind anyone who doesn’t agree with them should be trolled. You don’t get differing opinions from Hexbear, you get a bastardization of a differing opinion. One that is different only on the basis them telling you you’re wrong, and in most cases even that has to be intuited.

Nobody should wade through shit to get a few nuggets of gold which is why most people just block Hexbear.

randint,

Thankfully, OP is from an instance that has not federated with Hexbear. Hexbear users won’t be able to see this post.

spez,

But they have posted to .ml which is federated with hexbear. So the poster’s instance needs to be federated no the instance of the community where the post is?

MBM,

You need both. For a comment you even need the community instance, the poster instance, and the commenter instance to all be federated

jaybone,

That’s confusing.

Honytawk,

Basically, everybody needs to agree before access is granted.

It is the best way to block spammers and trolls.

LarkinDePark,

Because he was democratically elected in a transparent election. Unlike the current American demented imbecile.

quindraco,

What are you talking about? He doesn’t hold elected office. Here’s the last time he was re-appointed to his appointed position.

LarkinDePark,

Even your link to the fucking guardian says he was elected fair and square. Unlike Jim Crow Joe.

aport,

Lol he was elected by the party, not the people, in what amounts to a loyalty test.

LarkinDePark,

Remember when the people of the USA chose to vote for one of two white supremacists?

Lol, neither do I, then the feds rigged the election anyway.

aport,

What?

LarkinDePark,

Yeah they don’t tell you much about what’s going on in your police state do they? The feds paid a visit around to all the social media giants and forced them to censor negative news about paedo Joe. This is well known outside your prison state.

nypost.com/…/zuckerberg-blames-fbi-for-censoring-…

Honytawk,
LarkinDePark,
kmkz_ninja,

When “Don’t let people post pictures of my son’s dick” becomes “China will disappear you if you call Winnie the Pooh a dictator as a citizen of China”.

We know about it. You’re like a Libertarian acting like they have secret knowledge when they tell you you still have to pay taxes for Universal healthcare.

jaybone,

Omg you people are insufferable.

LarkinDePark,

Suffer.

SeducingCamel,

Sounds like the electoral college

aport,

Sounds like you need to take a civics class

SeducingCamel,

That won’t change the amount of presidents we’ve sworn in that didn’t have a majority of the people’s votes

RedWizard,
@RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml avatar

That’s how parliament works in the UK. Bunch of dictators over there in the Queen’s England.

intensely_human,

In the UK there are multiple political parties.

Serdan,

And look how well that’s going for them.

Honytawk,

Better than any one or two political party(ies)

Serdan,

You mean like USA?

RedWizard,
@RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Ah yes, because they are all very different and diverse and definitely don’t kowtow to the same political group. A wolf in a different hat is still a wolf.

Krause,
@Krause@lemmygrad.ml avatar

from your link:

“I was reelected as the general secretary of the CPC central committee,” Xi said in opening remarks, before presenting the six other members: Li Qiang, Zhao Leji, Wang Huning, Cai Qi, Ding Xuexiang, and Li Xi.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

“I am not a dictator! Anyone who says I am will get jailed!” - Grand Poohbear of China, 2023

coyootje,

It’d be funny if he called him “Winnie the pooh” when he meets him to explain himself :)

Laitinlok,

Winnie so sad lmfao

GreatGrapeApe,

No that would be racist.

Laitinlok,

The Internet has used it to indirectly refer to him

GreatGrapeApe,

I did for a bit too until someone here pointed out the underlying issue. Winnie is yellow in all the images of him Disney made or not. And “yellow” people in Western racism are Asians particularly Chinese people.

It would be really fucked up for Germany to call Xi any variation of that name IMO.

nyctre,

This just in: calling a black person Mickey mouse is racist! Can’t call a white person “Snoopy”, that’s racist too. Likening a Chinese person to a character from the Simpsons? Believe it or not, racist.

T4V0,
@T4V0@lemmy.pt avatar

You are aware that they compare him to Winnie due to this image, right?

Left half of the image is Winnie the Pooh walking beside Tigger, right half is Xi Jinping and Barack Obama walking side by side.

Calling it out as racism would be an exaggeration.

FUCKRedditMods,

No it’s definitely racist—see obama is tigger because they’re calling him a….

/s

OrteilGenou,

I did for a bit too until someone here pointed out the underlying issue. Winnie is yellow

That’s one point off your critical thinking score.

WarmSoda,

Whoever pointed that out is the racist.

loutr,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

The meme was created by Chinese bloggers, who used it to mock Xi despite heavy monitoring and censorship. If anything, perpetuating it is a show of support of Chinese dissenters.

Laitinlok,

Let’s think about as a way to be less obvious when talking about him

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

You are not a Chinese blogger.

At this point it’s mostly just crackers who refer to him this way.

aport,

Well you clearly are an authority on racism, you’ve got years of experience.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

You can’t be racist against whitey lol

aport,

You seem to be enjoying your brain worms. Rock on

Laitinlok,

It honestly depends, some VPN companies like to use it to refer him but don’t want to piss off the Ccp so they blocked all their servers.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Techbros are never racist.

Look, I’m sure not every use of the meme is racist - but all racists use the meme. Get it?

Laitinlok,

Ok

loutr,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

Did you just assume my ethnicity?

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

I assumed your nationality - you don’t live in China lol

loutr,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fair enough

krolden,
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  • loutr,
    @loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m not sure I qualify as a cracker, what with me not being American and having a Chinese father, but what do I know.

    NuPNuA,

    Jacobs or Mcvities?

    BeanCounter,

    I’m Asian. I can bet everything I have that no single Asians would never think so.

    eran_morad,

    Lol, you guys crack me up.

    Ubermeisters,

    Incorrect nice try though

    Akrenion,

    The german minister of foreign affairs is the women depicted in the post.

    hydrospanner,

    I think they were talking about the ambassador (who may also be a woman, idk) not the foreign minister.

    Akrenion,

    Very likely. However that is also a women.

    MeowZedong,
    @MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Why is that? Is it because you think it’s funny that Winnie the Pooh is yellow and Xi is Chinese? Racism is so funny!!!

    False,

    Nah it’s funny because they’re both fat and short dude

    photonic_sorcerer,
    @photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Well that just goes to prove her point. Well done, Xi.

    Laitinlok,

    Overacting insecure jerk what Xi is

    LarkinDePark,

    Isn’t your president a paedophile?

    kmkz_ninja,

    No, we voted for the older guy this time.

    Faresh,

    I don’t think any country would like their head of state be called a dictator.

    intensely_human,

    Except maybe Rome

    photonic_sorcerer,
    @photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    And yet normal, functioning countries don’t lash out like this.

    Laitinlok,

    Germany is right

    Pili,

    You could even say, it is far-right.

    Laitinlok,

    Another Germany W

    PeWu,

    Now they have (at least) two W’s on their account

    Taalen,

    And some say there were two WWs on their account

    PeWu,

    Damn, they’re good

    Honytawk,

    Neither of which gave them a W though.

    Taalen,

    Yet somehow it still resulted in W Germany.

    Guildo,

    “The remarks made by Germany are extremely absurd, seriously infringe on China’s political dignity, and are an open political provocation,” Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said at a regular news briefing on Monday.

    Because everybody thinks this is because she called Xi a Dictator - is there any proof, that this is really the case? I searched everywhere, but I couldn’t find anything. I think the problem is her whole statement and not just calling Xi a dictator. I would be very very happy if anybody can give me a source for this. I would like to read the whole context and not just one sentence with nothing in it.

    Don’t downvote me, just give me a source. Thx.

    Laitinlok,

    When asked about Russia’s war on Ukraine, she said: “If Putin were to win this war, what sign would that be for other dictators in the world, like Xi, like the Chinese president?”

    Guildo,

    Thx, maybe it helps other people to understand that this statement is implying that China would like to invade Taiwan. It implies that China wants to act like russia acted with ukraine. If you are following china’s international politics and diplomacy you should understand that this is the bigger problem. They don’t care about this dictator-shit. If they really care about the word dictator: PLS! PLS! PLS! Give me a source for it.

    SnipingNinja,

    Yes, China doesn’t want to invade other countries, not at all, that’s not the reason why other countries are mad at the map the Chinese government released recently, it’s just the other countries misrepresenting China and Xi.

    !Heaping dose of sarcasm!<

    Guildo,

    Are you some kind of retarded? I said the problem is that Baerbock was implying it. I did not say anything about, if they want to invade or if they don’t want to. I don’t want to judge about it. If you wanna do it - go for it. But don’t say I made a choice here. Diplomacy is a game, which only works, if you’re playing it good. Baerbock has many opportunities to play games, but what does she do? She goes to this damn News-Channel, who promoted Trump.

    Lols,

    ableism is bad

    Guildo,

    Sorry, you’re right. I am doing wrong to retarded people. Retarded people are more intelligent.

    Lols,

    i think this is a good time to remind everyone reading the comments in this comment section that a significant part of them are written by middle schoolers

    Guildo,

    Not just the comment-section also most articles about it - because they’re not just taking the facts, they’re making a soap-opera out of it.

    Ubermeisters,

    How about you don’t fucking tell me what to do with my votes thanks

    -downvoted

    Guildo,

    Pls don’t upvote me.

    daftantimony,

    Oh yeah? Well, screw you!

    -upvoted

    GreatGrapeApe,

    When you change the rules so you can hold office longer than permitted in an authoritarian country that is an appropriate label for the dictator.

    Laitinlok,

    Yep and other rules

    spez,

    hexbear disagrees

    Ubermeisters,

    Nobody gives a single fuck though because it’s hex bear

    can,

    that bunch of larping teens?

    mustardman,

    The very same!

    dalekcaan,

    Then it must be true

    Honytawk,

    hexbears are trolls, they would disagree even if it killed their mother.

    RickyRigatoni,
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  • Laitinlok,

    Omfg made my day

    FrostyCaveman,

    Oh bother

    Jaysyn,
    Jaysyn avatar

    Have you tried not being an authoritarian PoS, Xi?

    Laitinlok,

    Their unhealthy coping mechanism is making it worse obviously

    eran_morad,

    Oh bother!

    Laitinlok,

    Can we say what a laugh of a minute he is

    Laitinlok,

    Do they know healthy communication can gain a better impression and often less problematic, another boundaries and relationship course, thanks

    LetterboxPancake,

    Like with Russia? Yes, I guess they learned the lesson. Fuck dictators.

    Gsus4,
    @Gsus4@feddit.nl avatar

    I actually agree with this, it’s counterproductive, but Germany is a little sensitive right now because their car industry can’t compete with subsidized Chinese electric cars (dumping actually), so :3

    Draedron,

    China is committing a genocide. We need to clearly address as what it is and stop being dependent on it.

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