De todo el mareo con #Kbin y #Lemmy para grupos en #Mastodon puedo decir que aunque Kbin salga ganando no hay mucho visible desde Mastodon que justifique su uso para agrupar conversaciones de ciertos temas en lugar de usar hashtags.
Por ello activé en los grupos de Kbin que añadan las publicaciones que usen su respectivo hashtag como hilo de su sección de microblog.
Quien prefiera usar cuenta de Kbin en vez de Mastodon tiene cierta ventaja para comunicarse con el fediverso como si fuera #Reddit.
Siendo positivo y práctico sé que cualquiera puede seguir usando #Mastodon y entrar a #Kbin sin necesidad de crear una cuenta nueva, usar el buscador para navegar entre comunidades y en caso de encontrar cualquier hilo o comunidad con la que quiera interactuar, copiar su enlace, pegarlo en el buscador de su instancia de Mastodon y seguir desde ahí.
Ojalá fuera más cómodo, eso sí.
Pena que desde Mastodon los perfiles de los grupos de Kbin y #Lemmy se muestran vacíos aunque tengan publicaciones.
@dansup does stackoverflow really have anything that the other link aggregators / ranked forums like lemmy or kbin don't other than an automod closing functionality if you don't have enough karma and the ability for a thread's OP to pin a reply?
One thing that would have been nice to know as a newbie on the Fediverse:
The most common misconception, or at least from this side, was that they make it seem as if they all can connect and interact with one another. But this is not the case, as some work one way, some can only like or follow, others don’t get notifications at all when tagged.
So have been testing over the past few weeks and made accounts on: a) Hubzilla b) Friendica c) Mastodon d) Kbin e) Lemmy f) Iceshrimp g) Bonfire h) Peertube i) Funkwhale j) Pixelfed
And just out of curiosity: a) Using Bridgyfed, to test interactivity between the AT protocol of BlueSky and AP protocol of the Fediverse. b) Meta’s Threads for testing with Mastadon. c) Starting to test Nostr with its peer-to-peer network.
TL;DR:
The fediverse holds a lot of promise, but it the ideal level of interconnectivity isn’t there yet. (And yes, not all of them need to be able to connect and interact on the same level of details as with the others, as they are different tools.)
There's a really cool one I used to love called The 13th Floor that used to be active and then one week the mod and his friends disappeared.
After the mod was gone for a month I took over moderation to protect it from spam or deletion, but I have other projects so can't really do it justice. I would love it if it got a new lease on life.
I mod 4, but only the smallest one (worldwithoutus) is actually mine.
It has about 240 people now, so according to the 90:9:1 rule (out of every 100 people 1 posts and 9 interact) there should be 2 people posting but in reality it's not at that point yet! However, I like doing it.
The other 3 are bigger but not any more active.
very small user bases
If you're talking about the stats, you're probably only able to see how many accounts from your own instance are subscribers.
Kbin is kind of weird because the software is way less developed than Lemmy and it has regular outages, so a lot of people signed up and then left, a lot of communities got abandoned due to inactive mods and spam problems. So something like the kbin worldnews community I mod has literally thousands of inactive subscribers.
Oh shoot, I meant the above for @small44 actually, i.e. OP. I don’t believe you had replied to me at any point, hence that wasn’t meant for you.
That said-- I’m not too sure the “90:9:1” rule applies so well to the FV. For one thing, it seems like a good number of subscribers tried out Lemmy (etc) at some point and then went back to Reddit (etc), meaning they’re no longer really here. Another point is that since the FV moves a lot more slowly than Reddit, I question whether FV users are as active here compared to other places.
About the bias of me seeing only part of Small44’s community numbers due to filtering by my own instance-- you’re right of course, but after double-checking their overall global numbers, they’re actually only a tiny bit larger. Ironically or not, most of their users came from my own instance (lemm.ee). So their numbers across three communities are really too small to ever be properly viable IME.
So something like the kbin worldnews community I mod has literally thousands of inactive subscribers.
There are two mods currently, Ernest, admin of kbin as well as owner of /m/tech, and @artillect, who hasn't been seen (except for votes maybe?) for 8 months.
The word is that Ernest has real-life problems and can't maintain kbin at the moment.
I've applied here and a bunch of other places but hopefully better-qualified, more active people have also applied; Even if I get it, I can't be here all the time.
... but it needs the owner of the magazine, Ernest, who isn't around, to accept the applications.
Por seguir la temática del grupo, digamos que quiero organizar una partida con stream de #VRising y que quiero que se emita en https://twitch.tv/detun3d
@detun3d Adjunto una captura para mostrarla de ejemplo. En las pestaña de All Content aparecería igualmente mezclado junto a cualquier hilo, y en la pestaña de Threads habría prioridad a contenido filtrable por hilos, fotos y enlaces pero también un icono avisando de que hay nuevas publicaciones de microblog.
Desde Kbin y visible en Mastodon además muy convenientemente se fija un hashtag con el mismo nombre del grupo de Kbin a cualquier respuesta al hilo, aunque sea de microblog.
@enobacon Not until reminded. Not sure if it is how kbin works, or firefox, but looking at alt text is annoying enough that I would assume nobody looks at it.
Me encanta que a #Mastodon le ha dado un ataquito con los grupos porque en #Kbin hay tanto un usuario como un grupo llamados #Detun3d.
El buscador no puede con tanto clon, y honestamente me parece bien. Ahora lo corrijo, que sobra.
A lot of the larger abandoned magazines are just spam pools now. I don't see their posts in my feed, but I don't like that the two sidesbars of random posts and threads are now just spam advertising sidebars. I triedblocking the magazines, but doesn't that prevent the posts from showing in those sidebars....
Most of the content being federated to my instance from kbin appears to be mostly adverts for websites selling pharmaceuticals - usually advertising controlled substances.
After a couple from the same magazine(? kbin’s term?) I just block the community. But it’s pretty non-stop. I guess it’s not yet considered to be worth defederating, but yowsa.
Kbin got the same rexodus boost as lemmy but since then has many more atrophied communities and far fewer moderaters to do anything about it, hence spamalot.
I've only seen 1 or 2 pieces of spam in my feed and that was months back - interesting that you seem to be seeing more of it on a federated server. I only started blocking those magazines when I noticed the spam on desktop sidebars.
It’s weird. And it’s all pharma. Buy oxy! Buy Valium! I haven’t seen much other spam lately; a couple of months ago, it was thinly veiled product line stuff: “such-and-such company provides high-quality tools for Y industry” stuff, but back then I wasn’t noticing it was specifically coming from kbin. That’s all gone away, and now it’ll be a run of a half-dozen “Canadian” pharma adverts in the unfiltered World feed.
It’ll be interesting to see what solution some enterprising person comes up with. It’ll involve an LLM, no doubt.
Unforcunately the admin\creator of kbin has personal issues and is missing. We need to leave, but that means migrating manually which is annoying. Too bad, there are some good idas here.
Pruebo de nuevo a etiquetar a @detun3d y @detun3d por si hubiera cambiado algo.
No le prestéis mucha atención a esto a menos que queráis ver también qué interacciones federan y cuales no.
Y de paso, una imagen de un gatito.
@detun3d Además de esto, los adjuntos en respuestas a hilos desde @detun3d en #Lemmy no se ven, mientras que actualmente desde #Kbin sí aparecen como un enlace.
Por último, añadido a esto veo que en #Kbin han añadido nuevas funciones, entre ellas la capacidad de filtrar contenidos de los grupos por etiquetas al igual que se hace en #Reddit, algo que en #Lemmy aun no existe a pesar de tener más edad.
Kbin gana este asalto y de reafirmarse migraré los grupos de Lemmy a Kbin para que se pueda interactuar con ellos desde Mastodon para publicaciones concretas en aspectos en los que los hashtags no sirvan.
Pendiente también de #Mastodon y #Pixelfed.
*Best* video for explaining the Fediverse to a total noob?
Suggestions?
What some Lemmy communities that are dead or very low number of new posts that you would like to get more active?
My pick is /c/albumartporn
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New Mods Please
Like seriously, where are the current ones at? There's too much trash and clutter posts here.
Could blocked magazines no longer appear in Random Post and Random Thread sidebars?
A lot of the larger abandoned magazines are just spam pools now. I don't see their posts in my feed, but I don't like that the two sidesbars of random posts and threads are now just spam advertising sidebars. I triedblocking the magazines, but doesn't that prevent the posts from showing in those sidebars....
Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam
Looking at the front page of this forum and many others, leads me to conclude that kbin has a ridiculous spam problem....