andros, to emacs
@andros@hostux.social avatar

I publish a new article: «Creating desktop applications using the Emacs core»
https://programadorwebvalencia.com/creating-desktop-applications-using-the-emacs-core/

In summary, I can use Emacs to create GUIs with an Elisp backend.

mjgardner,
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@andros @marcolas Do you want with ? Because that’s how you get Electron with Elisp.

(emphatically not an endorsement)

mjgardner,
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@andros @marcolas The point is your architecture is the same as #ElectronJs, replacing embedded #NodeJs and #Chromium running #JavaScript with embedded #Emacs running #Elisp.

So every app using it has all of #Electron’s disadvantages:
• lowest-common-denominator #GUI obviously foreign to the host OS
• non-portable shims to integrate with host OS features
• an individually bespoke runtime consuming storage, memory, and compute as if it were a separate virtual machine

mjgardner,
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@boo_ @andros I didn’t foresee anyone turning Google’s browser engine V8 (2008) into the server (, 2009) and desktop (, 2013) runtimes that ate the world, but here we are.

And Electron was originally developed for ’s text editor (2008) before they were acquired by in 2018, subsequently discontinued in favor of in 2022.

Don’t tell me what you can’t see happening if you don’t remember what already did

mjgardner, (edited ) to random
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

I do not understand who continue providing only and/or packages.

As I commented on the issues page for Native (an frontend for the download utility), Intel-only software “serves a dwindling niche of discontinued models and discontent professionals.” And unsigned are “unusable for anyone who wants to maintain their Mac’s .”

https://github.com/mayswind/AriaNg-Native/issues/112#issuecomment-1567647421

randomgeek, to random

Looking up "Drupal" and "Notion" and I'm finding how to integrate with the Notion API and I'm like you don't understand I didn't want to work with Notion I wanted to reimplement Notion.

It's okay the urge passed. Just one of those ADHD "I've got a brilliant idea" moments

mjgardner,
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@nicomen @randomgeek @codinghorror I left out the part where bulit for its text editor around the same time, also using . It was really the perfect storm. Server-only languages and frameworks never had a chance.

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