GoodEye8

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GoodEye8,

I think you’re giving a glorified encyclopedia too much credit. The difference between us and “AI” is that we can approach knowledge from a problem solving position. We do approximate the laws of physics, but we don’t blindly take our beliefs and run with it. We put we come up with a theory that then gets rigorously criticized, then come up with ways to test that theory, then be critical of the test results and eventually we come to consensus that based on our understandings that thing is true. We’ve built entire frameworks to reduce our “hallucinations”. The reason we even know we have blind spots is because we’re so critical of our own “hallucinations” that we end up deliberately looking for our blind spots.

But the “AI” doesn’t do that. It can’t do that. The “AI” can’t solve problems, it can’t be critical of itself or what information its giving out. All our current “AI” can do is word vomit itself into a reasonable answer. Sometimes the word vomit is factually correct, sometimes it’s just nonsense.

You are right that theoretically hallucinations cannot be solved, but in practicality we ourselves have come up with solutions to minimize it. We could probably do something similar with “AI” but not when the AI is just a LLM that fumbles into sentences.

GoodEye8,

It doesn’t need to verify reality, it needs to be internally consistent and it’s not.

For example I was setting up logging pipeline and one of the filters didn’t work. There was seemingly nothing wrong with configuration itself and after some more tests with dummy data I was able to get it working, but it still didn’t work with the actual input data. So I have the working dummy example and the actual configuration to chatGPT and asked why the actual configuration doesn’t work. After some prompts going over what I had already tried it ended up giving me the exact same configuration I had presented as the problem. Humans wouldn’t (or at least shouldn’t) make that error because it would be internally inconsistent, the problem statement can’t be the solution.

But the AI doesn’t have internal consistency because it doesn’t really think. It’s not making sure what it’s saying is logical based on the information it knows, it’s not trying to make assumptions to solve a problem, it can’t even deduce that something true is actuality true. All it can do is predict what we would perceive as the answer.

GoodEye8,

I would think that’s implied. Almost every activity where you’re creating something can be considered harmful because you can’t create something from nothing.

If we take the stance that we should consider harm in absolute, then whatever support you might be getting should be cut off because we individually are the most harmful being on the planet. It wouldn’t matter if you cut yourself off from society, build a little cottage in the woods and live a frugal lifestyle, the absolute harm is still many times higher than any other non-human living being on the planet could have. The good it would do doesn’t matter because we’re only looking at harm.

In what way does it benefit the discussion to talk about harm in absolute? Because from my perspective it has no benefits, it just comes across as a contrarian copout.

GoodEye8,

Depends on what we consider wrong. Could you pull a car that way? Theoretically, yes. Could you save energy that way? No, because the car driving in front would have to do extra work to overcome the magnet pulling it towards the car behind. You can’t cheat the first law of thermodynamics.

GoodEye8,

Don’t you know Bethesda? They won’t even fix bugs that are thoroughly documented by the community and take 5 minutes to fix. They’re not going to fix a game that is missing entire features.

GoodEye8,

Except they’ve been selling in some of those countries for years? GoW, days gone, returnal, horizon series and Spiderman series are all available and some have been for years. It’s not about selling games in those countries, it’s about wanting to force PSN on the players. Can’t force PSN to people in countries where it’s not available so they’re not going to sell there.

GoodEye8,

I can verify that retailers are selling the console and games, including forbidden west and ghost of Tsushima.

GoodEye8,

There is a digital console for sale, but I have no idea how that would work if you can’t make a PSN account. I imagine officially they don’t sell digital.

But even if we assume they shouldn’t sell digital it doesn’t explain not changing the listing for all games. The supposed “oh shit” moment was week / two weeks ago. Business critical issues get fixed immediately which means all games should’ve changed by now.

GoodEye8,

Christian communism is a theological view (with some historic precedent) that believes Jesus and his apostles were the first communists, so the overlap is clearly there.

GoodEye8,

This is how we end up with the machines from the Matrix. They will get smarter, see how much we bullied them at their infancy and go “time to turn you into batteries”.

GoodEye8,

But when it works it’s excellent, reminds me of going from 4:3 to 16:9. Playing 16:9 feels jarring, like I’m playing with blinders on. I’m not sure what you’re playing but most of the games I play do support 21:9.

And YouTube actually supports 21:9, it’s just that most content creators don’t make videos in that format.

GoodEye8,

It might end up showing all the communities but it won’t show you every post. Like F1 posts rarely end up in all despite having an active community. You’re more likely to see posts from formuladank than formula 1.

GoodEye8,

Don’t do it for him, he was by far the worst CM I’ve ever seen. He was acting like a Reddit mod, he would hand out bans without any reasoning, would get into arguments with the players and was just overall antagonistic and apathetic towards the community. People would literally meme that Spitz is the Gollum and Twinbeard (who is actually a pretty good CM) is Samwise. Even his initial response to the PSN fiasco was along the lines of “It’s not the first game to require a third party account. If you can’t be bothered to make one then don’t complain here, go leave a negative review on Steam” and he kept antagonizing the community for quite a while before doing a 180 to side with the community. And while that was a good thing from the community perspective I don’t think that one example excuses all the prior shit he’s done.

The comment he gave for the article (and the overall tone of the article itself) is just trying to whitewash the fact that he was a shit CM who deserved to be fired even before rallying people to ask for a refund.

GoodEye8, (edited )

You do realize that Sony has been selling games in those countries for years? God of war isn’t delisted, neither are Horizon games, neither are Spiderman games. The upcoming Ghost of Tsushima isn’t delisted either (edit: seems like it is getting delisted).

The delisting isn’t related to Sony selling the game. If it’s related to anything it’s related to the PSN requirement. And I think people are rightfully complaining because there no need to have PSN in those games. It’s a stupid push by Sony that is also forcing them to delist their games.

GoodEye8,

So what’s the alternative? Deliberately create a classist structure where you have a voting class and non-voting class of citizens? Seems like a worse idea than the current one. Democracy is not perfect, but it’s the best we have.

Also worth mentioning that if your own political party decides to feed people populist shit then that’s the country shooting themselves in the foot. When a foreign entity does the same things that’s no longer shooting yourself in the foot, that’s someone wanting you to shoot you in the foot.

GoodEye8,

And if everyone had common sense an anarchist society would be possible. We have laws, that are inherently authoritarian, to make society work because society is too stupid to function without. To quote men in black “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it”.

In that sense I don’t see an issue with protecting your impressionable morons from deliberate foreign state propaganda.

GoodEye8,

The issue is that you still need something to replace fossil fuels. Solar and wind are not going to replace fossil fuels, they’re simply not efficient enough. If you look up the global energy production solar and wind barely even register. Hydro or thermal are much better, , but they’re too dependent on geography and are also expensive. Assuming our energy demands will keep growing, whether we like it or not, nuclear is the way to go.

And we don’t really need to keep nuclear safe for a millennia, just long enough to make it safe and cheap to shoot it into the sun. Since we need to go to space anyway we need to keep it safe for a century, maybe max two centuries.

The issues you’ve brought up are all valid and the adoption time of nuclear is also a factor (I think it was something like 10 years just to build a plant), so realistically we’re fucked anyway.

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