@yeti@whhone recently my sales pitches have included heavy org-babel documents using noweb exported to markdown to produce up to date documentation of a process, documents that transclude other content avoiding duplication but and reusing bits of content in different composition for export to jira, zendesk, email, and slack. Pulling up a person note, popping org-roam-buffer and seeing a history or things relating to that person along with graph visualization. Oh, and some chatgpt stuff.
Obsidian is one of my precious software Finds of the last year. As a fan of Markdown it's just amazing and has revolutionised my note-taking. That, plus there are dozens of wider features I haven't even touched on yet! :celsilvercrystalheart: Heartily recommended.
Been using #grapheneos for about a week now and I just have to say WOW! I don't think I've ever had an experience on my phone that feels like I'm using my #Linux desktop/laptop. The amount of control this OS gives back to me that google and apple took away is staggering. I know no piece of tech is 100% #private or #secure . But damn is this close!
Your mind is technically one tool but it does multiple things, so why can't your #PKM be one tool that does multiple things well and with little resistance
@EpiphanicSynchronicity@jason what!? No one mentioned emacs and org-mode. So whatever was said previously plus email, madtadon, gpt, and more... There, all is well.
@danny@blake@jason@EpiphanicSynchronicity I've tried, I didn't love it. I like logseq, but I found the mobile app a bit slow, and sharing things to it didn't have a consistent landing spot. Sometimes new node in daily journal, sometimes wherever my insertion point was when I last left. While Orgzly is again my primary capture on mobile, I'll definitely keep trying with logseq. I even got one of my non technical colleagues to start using logseq and he loves it.
I think what makes the learning curve of #3D modeling & animation software like #blender seem steep even for many seasoned #vfx designers is similar to what makes #emacs appear to have a steep learning curve even for many seasoned programmers: it's more about "learning to drive" than about learning the program's pleathora of features.
once you learn to drive in either emacs or blender, which essentially boils down to learning keyboard macros and how they makeup a tactile vocabulary with similar variations extending across a large number of "modes", you'll never again wind up spending half an hour figuring out how to edit your file again, those little things that initially steer people away from plunging in and reaping the benefits. but really that passes within about a month, and like being able to drive a bike or a car, the mobility offered by "putting in the work" lasts a lifetime.
@rml I found it difficult to remember C == Ctrl, M == Alt and S == Shift. Rather than learning the keybindings I found it much easier to learn the command the keybinding ran. Then I could learn M-x let's me type a command, and finally I could toggle evil off/on when it was horked allowing me to avoid quiting emails with pkill (before I learned kill-emacs).
@rml It was just a battle of wills getting evil working vanilla years ago, then I found spacemacs it was easy to start driving and benefiting from everything that was available. Org-mode (what brought me), then quickly code, email, jira, and, and, and ...
I am curious how many of you Tools for Thought users are familiar with sidenotes and do you use them? If so, how do achieve this effect in your tool for thought?
A colleague saw me using #Emacs and #OrgMode for my notes, to-dos etc. and said "If you like that, you should try Obsidian". I asked if that has a built-in file browser, shell or can be used as an IDE, and he gave me a confused look that said "Why should it?". One of us is beyond help, I just don't know which one.
@hl why shouldn't it? Just type that command you were thinking of running into your notes, run it from your notes, see the output in your notes, type notes about your output. Was it was expected, what's interesting, what's the next thing you want to look for. repeat.
@spinningthoughts I've never used Devonthink. I just scanned it's impressive feature list and each of them I could think of a parallel in Emacs org-mode + syncthing.
@publicvoit@spinningthoughts@laotang I guess what I like is that I don't think about where a file is. It's in some directory based on the nodes ID which is automatically generated if not present. So it can be found. But a hobgoblin on my shoulder makes me want the files to remain near the node.
🟢 #FOSS with AGPL license (in theory)
🔴 In reality it depends on a closed source module responsible for sync, dubious legality and misleading
🟡 Developed almost privately by a Venture Capitals funded company but accepting small contributions on GitHub and donations on OpenCollective
🟢 Store notes in #Markdown (or in less supported #OrgMode) locally
🟡 Forces indented lists in .md files and it doesn’t support normal paragraphs at all
🟡 Introduces syntax that breaks Markdown in a very bad way instead of using code blocks where possible (in Advanced Queries?)
🟡 Based on Electron, NodeJS and NPM
🟡 UI and business logic mixed together, it forces you to always run the whole UI, including for sync
🟢 Available for Linux on FlatHub (unofficially)
🔴 AppImage is the only officially supported way to install on Linux
🟡 No official reproducible builds but unofficial Flatpak ones are reproducible
🟡 Not in F-droid (and the closed source sync feature wouldn’t be allowed there anyway), you have to grab their APK manually or automatically
🟢 Supports Wayland but not by default
🟢 Custom CSS
🟡 Fixed UI, no tabs, no split view
🟡 Multi-window means multiple conflicting whole instances
🟢 Plugins platform
🔴 Plugins marketplace based on GitHub
🟡 Poor integration of plugins especially from UI/UX PoV
🟢 Very interesting concept of PDF annotations
🟡 PDF annotations not stored in the .pdf as standard annotations
🟡 PDF annotations stored in their own .md files with odd names
🟢 LaTeX formulas support
🟡 No native PDF export and in general problematic
🟡 Too many menus, command palettes and other redundant UI elements
🟢 Queries with simple syntax and UI
🟡 Advanced Queries are too often needed
🟢 Datalog query language in Advanced Queries
🟡 Very broken aliases feature
🟡 Inconsistent requirements of capitalize, lowercase etc in query syntax and elsewhere that even break some functionalities
🟢 Macros
🟡 Macros don’t work with most syntax, including Advanced Queries
🟢 Supports HTML and Hiccup syntax
🟢 Supports embedding Web pages using iframes
🟢 Sync is e2e encrypted
🔴 The code for e2e encryption can’t be audited because it is closed source
🟡 Tons of functionalities must be configured by editing a EDN file that it is very easy to break
🟢 Forum based on Discourse
🔴 Use (and abuse) of Discord, even release announcements are made there
🟡 Some Matrix bridges
