sunaurus

@sunaurus@lemm.ee
  • Head admin @ lemm.ee, a general-purpose Lemmy instance
  • Creator of lemmy-ui-next, an alternative Lemmy frontend
  • Lemmy contributor

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sunaurus,

Do you think Lemmy is decentralized enough right now, or are you worried about some of the bigger instances growing too much?

sunaurus,

It’s OK to post questions here:

Feel free to post and upvote questions beforehand in this post, as it will turn into the AMA tomorrow.

sunaurus,

I kind of get where you’re coming from, but to me it sounds like you’re looking for a different experience than what Lemmy is designed for. It seems you are more interested in aggergating all posts about specific topics (like “books”), and strongly limiting the effect of moderation (as nobody would have final say about how to moderate an entire topic). If I correctly understood the experience you’re interested in, then for sure the design of Lemmy will not match that.

I don’t think it’s fair to describe this as a fatal flaw, though. Lemmy is not built around the idea of generic, “ownerless” topics, instead, it’s built around communities with clear owners. We have decentralization at the admin and infrastructure level (as in, a single admin does not control the entire network), but this does not really mean we also need to have it at individual community level.

IMO it’s totally fine that different people create different communities with extremely similar purposes. The entire internet as a whole also works like this - the internet itself is decentralized, but at the same time people can create different websites with very similar purposes (and even domains!), and it works out fine. For example, it’s totally possible for there to exist a news.com, news.co.uk, news.ee, news.fi, etc. Imagine if whenever you navigated to news.fi with your browser, it would also automatically insert content from all the other news websites of all possible domains - it doesn’t really seem like a useful feature, but that’s kind of analogous to what you’re suggesting for Lemmy at the moment.

sunaurus,

It would be awesome to have a laid-back Europe community on lemm.ee, let me know if I can support you in any way with that!

sunaurus, (edited )

lemm ee: The owners don’t really moderate and its users reflect this fact. Universally unpleasant userbase.

This is categorically untrue. You can find our administration policy here, and we frequently ban users for breaking our instance rules. At most you could make the claim that we are lenient when it comes to things like heated arguments, as we often give warnings or temporary bans to users in such cases, but on the other hand, our “no bigotry” rule is very strict, and violations have consistently resulted in permanent bans.

We of course don’t screen all posts and comments which our users write, so we can only respond to reports, but I assure you that our admin team is constantly going over and responding to the report queue (which is a big effort, and clearly a thankless job).

By the way, I just want to point out that we have ~3000 active monthly users on lemm.ee, I find it very unlikely that you can make an accurate universal judgement about such a huge group of people.

sunaurus,

I am not really interested in discussing this with you, as you already have an opinion about lemm.ee and seem intent on spreading false rumors about us. I’ve learned several months ago that no matter how much you give to people for free, there will always be users demanding more, so I don’t think there is any chance of you being interested in what I have to say. I am just responding here, so other users who may end up reading this thread don’t come away with the impression that what you are saying is true.

First of all, no user has ever been banned from lemm.ee for criticizing the admin team. Our admins have banned nearly a thousand users in the past ~7 months (just think about that for a second - that is a massive amount of bullshit our volunteer admins have had to wade through in the span of less than a year), and indeed the mod log is public, so you can easily check the ban reasons, which are consistently related to violations of our basic instance rules.

If any moderation team on any of our communities does not follow our instance rules, then such communities are closed. We have in fact had to do this several times before with some conservative-type communities, mainly because they wanted to push the ideas that some people, based on their identities, are less valuable as humans that others. The current conservative community on the other hand is consistently moderating based on our instance rules, and they have incorporated the no bigotry rule into their community rules as well. If this ever changes, then we will take action, just as we have done previously.

Regarding the allegations against one of the mods, I’m not sure if you’ve seen the event they were referencing, but I think it’s safe to say that this event was extremely misrepresented by the accuser. In any real cases of CSAM, lemm.ee has taken drastic actions. We have purged, banned, defederated, reported to authorities, we have implemented some technical safeguards, and we will continue to take action like this in the future as well.

Let me just finish off by saying that we are a volunteer team giving up our time for free. I realize that users want admins to be perfect and moderate exactly in line with their preferences, but we are humans, we miss things, we make mistakes, and we can not possibly be available 24/7 or read every single piece of content posted by other lemm.ee users.

sunaurus,

Nowadays it’s allowed only for users with >4 week old accounts. It’s not perfect, but having this barrier to entry will hopefully prevent at least some problems.

sunaurus,

Not at the moment, I would need to clean up the code a bit first 😅 If I get a chance to do that, then I will make the repo public.

sunaurus,

Should be good now, let me know if you’re still seeing anything weird

sunaurus,

I can’t thank them enough! I think each and every lemm.ee supporter is amazing, they are all having a huge impact on the long-term viability of this instance.

sunaurus,

These bot instances were breaking some things for us, so they were temporarily blocked for a couple of days as I worked on a solution.

We now have a solution in place where posts from communities on these instances are only visible if you’re subscribed to those specific communities. Basically, they are hidden by default, but you can opt-in by subscribing.

The bots are no longer blocked, so if they send out new posts to us, they will come through.

sunaurus,

It’s possible that the login issue is caused by your browser settings. Are you able to stay logged in for longer on other websites?

Just in case, you could also try completely clearing all cookies for lemm.ee, and then log in directly from the front page.

Logs are getting spammed with stacktraces "WARN Error encountered while processing the incoming HTTP request: lemmy_server::root_span_builder: Unknown:"

My lemmy-ui container is spiking cpu usage and looking into the logs the following shows up (900.000 lines in total). Any ideas what the issue could be? I’m on 0.19.1, everything seems to be working fine aside from the logs filling up and the usage piking sometimes....

sunaurus,

Did the upgrade solve it for you?

sunaurus,

0.19.2 was a simple upgrade, did not even require downtime, so I’m not surprised it wasn’t noticed :P

sunaurus,

I think the OP is talking about Lemmy having both a content preview and a text area for link posts.

Some users tend to write their own summary in the text area, so when opening up a post, the result will be:

  • Large title written by the OP
  • Automatic preview of the page, generated by Lemmy
  • Text summary of the page, written by the OP

I agree that this is a bit clunky in terms of UX

sunaurus,

What kind of issues? Are you using the latest version of Jerboa?

sunaurus,

I’m not sure what the exact circumstances are here, but something to note is that upgrading to 0.19 will mostly just help with outgoing federation (0.19.2 is much more reliable and robust when delivering activities to other instances compared to 0.18). We will start seeing the full benefits of this as more of the network upgrades.

sunaurus,

It’s definitely a configuration issue on their side, they are returning an incorrect inbox_url in their API at the moment.

sunaurus,

Mulle meeldib, et su screenshottidel on home screeni ikoonid värvide järgi sorteeritud :D

sunaurus,

What exactly is the issue with our admins? If you feel you’ve received some unjustified moderation, feel free to contact me and I can have a look.

sunaurus,

lemm.ee started having a weird bug for logging in

Hey, can you share some more about this login bug? I’m not aware of any login issues currently. Could it be related to an app you were using not supporting 0.19 yet?

sunaurus,

Based on the description, I am thinking this was related to some general issues we were having after the 0.19 upgrade (which have been solved now). Thanks for the info!

sunaurus,

We are on 0.19.1 right now!

sunaurus,

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