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cendawanita, to kbin

Is there for stuff? If i want to start one, how should I think about doing it?

testing,

@cendawanita @pixiecata @abhijith
this looks like a microblog post appearing on kbin.social > i am about to prepare some posts with screenshots to explain some features of kbin ❤️

testing,

@cendawanita @abhijith @pixiecata
kudos to you ❤️

  1. it's a federation issue! escpecially kbin.social is overwhelmed by requests
  2. microblogs: either you post straight to a kbin magazine by tagging magazine, or the magazine uses tags to scrape the fediverse, i.e. a post containing e.g. will appear in the microblog section of the magazine without necessitating microbloggers to tag thr kbin magazine itself

interestingly, this means that even a magazine with a name other than e.g. TootSEA would display posts

testing,

@cendawanita @abhijith @pixiecata
@cendawanita @abhijith @pixiecata
kbin works very much as a great aggregator > ernest (the maintainer of kbin) once described kbin properly as a gateway for the whole fediverse

i fully get his idea: until now, the fediverse is very much about microblogging, or, more exactly: the fedi is mainly a mastodon thing with one timeline > the problem: searching the fedi is an awkward experience, especially on mastodon, leading to a situation where many posts even from large mastodon instances vanish into the abyss > kbin has the aim to alleviate the burdensome search which is just ... great!

before i dive deeper into kbin, let me show you the example of so-called antennas on calckey and foundkey (antennas are a concept inherited from misskey, but alas, antennas on misskey have not worked properly for a very long time...)

antennas scrape the fedi by using keywords > these keywords are not hashtags, but just simple search items which also sometimes happen to be hashtags > one basic antenna of mine scrapes the fediverse for and > antennas on *keys result in interest-based separate timelines

the big difference between *key antennas and tag-loaded kbin magazines: kbin magazines are publicly visible, and they should work, at least in theory

defining tags for kbin magazines is pretty straight forward and way less refined than calckey antennas, but hey, it is so cool!

the screenshots of a kbin magazine on history created by myself on fedia.io relate to a recent conversation with you, and, somewhat sadly, i decided to create this magazine on a kbin instance with .io tld - the worst tld i can think of! the only reason i went over to fedia.io was the performance problems of kbin.social (i always feel tempted to write kebun.social btw...)

usually, posts from microbloggers posting to a kbin instance should appear in the microblog section of a kbin magazine > but this not always the case > see https://kbin.social/m/test/newest

a post from a private friendica acc called nomeutente showed up as a thread - i do not know why!

so far, i myself have not been able to post to kbin magazines from some of my alt accs on friendica, both private and groups > welcome to the buggyverse ... ​:Blobhaj_Thinking:​

testing,

@cendawanita @abhijith @pixiecata
posts from microblogging platforms such as calckey cannot post articles on kbin magazines, i.e. initiate a thread (i still hav not figured out how that acc from friendica managed to do exactly this, but i will find out)

anyway, posts from microblogging platforms do reach the microblog section of kbin magazines, and i am fine with it!

have a look at the microblog section of a test magazine at karab.in: https://karab.in/m/test1006/microblog

posts from microblogs are still visible, and really: i like the distinction between articles (starting a thread) and posts (from microblogs) on kbin > microblog posts to a kbin magazine can be arranged by date, so they can easily be found, rather than using somewhat obscure hashtag search on fedi microblogging platforms > one example is the microblog section of the tech magazine on kbin.social

my reasoning goes like this: there are people like you who coin and curate great hashtags, e.g. (i love this one, and i always recommend it to people from southeast asia who have not yet found other people from southeast asia - this hashtag is a creative meet&greet!)

kbin magazines help to curate hashtags, as kbin magazines are moderated, so that bad actors can be identified and excluded > moreover, posts using hashtags scraped by kbin magazines gain visibility on the fediverse

besides, microblogs can comment articles, i.e. contribute to threads > the microblog section complements the threads in many ways, and i would liken the microblog section of kbin magazines to footnotes in scientific articles, or to the foundations of a great construction site ...

cendawanita, to random

I think it's worth introducing into global English a word that we Malayans (i use this specifically) picked up from Indian colonial subjects: hartal (as per wiki: 'A hartal is a mass protest, often involving a total shutdown of workplaces, offices, shops, and courts of law, and a form of civil disobedience similar to a labour strike. In addition to being a general strike, it involves the voluntary closure of schools and places of business. It is a mode of appealing to the sympathies of a government to reverse an unpopular or unacceptable decision.'). It's a useful distinction because the current conversations are beholden to the framing of industrial labour action (and thus limiting the thinking that results in users also only seen as labour actors) when it's as much an expression of a populace about governance.

via @Chronotope

https://indieweb.social/@Chronotope/110541689102345045

Wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartal#:~:text=A%20hartal%20is%20a%20mass,schools%20and%20places%20of%20business.

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@cendawanita @Chronotope
i think that your own assessment is more correct than the wikipedia article: a hartal is not just a strike (or general strike)

given the term's roots in colonial india, it is more appropriate to define hartal as a type of strike where people with practically no political recognition and representation do claim their very rights under an oppressive regime which outlaws any kind of protest

the wikipedia article could use some serious editing. e.g.

In addition to being a general strike, it involves the voluntary closure of schools and places of business.

there have been quite a few general strikes in the past involving the voluntary closure of schools and places of business, e.g. the finnish general strike of 1905 which grew out of resistance against russian colonial oppression - even civil servants voluntarily joined the strike, or, from another point of view: the hartal

testing,

@cendawanita @Chronotope

Just saying it's labour action, because understandably recent examples in angloverse are about labour issues, to the point people are twisting themselves into ascribing users of a pseudo-public commons into worker roles felt unnecessarily silly.

i wholeheartedly agree ❤️ - redditors are not salaried workers going on strike

thank you for bringing hartal back to my mind > nowadays, i tend to use this word mostly in the sense of strike in general > but first time i read it in some hindi text book, the very hartal described was a gandhi-inspired one in colonial india in bombay province shortly before ww2

testing,

@cendawanita @Chronotope
i am supportive of your views, albeit from a durkheimian/maussian perspective:

redditors put in a lot of work - as a gift

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Mauss#Theoretical_views

it was foreseeable that the interests of redditors and reddit's owners must collide because of fundamentally economies at work

testing,

@Chronotope @cendawanita
where is the reward of redditors then?

testing,

@ada @nomeutente @test
i cannot get over that test post from friendica tbh > i am puzzled!

this is the reason:
https://kbin.social/u/@nomeutente@poliverso.org/threads

it is not a post, but an article! how did that happen, as it was not sent from a group?

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