flatcat

@flatcat@kbin.social
flatcat, to vinyl
flatcat, to vinyl

Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet - my favorite of his excellent Prestige titles.

flatcat,

This really the best use of ChatGPT - I use it to write long annoying rebuttals to BS in about 2 seconds. It either a) shuts them up b) invites more low-effort responses which just answer again with ChatGPT or c) they start talking about the AI in which case I move on to saying they have nothing if all they have is ad hominen attacks.

What got you into Vinyl ?

I started collecting almost 3 years ago when I kept popping into a record store @waxandbeans. Couldnt afford a decent turntable until recently though so I waited. Money was all over the place so I bought and sold but Ive got back all the ones I sold. For me its a combination of the sound quality and The local community on it....

flatcat,

I started collecting music in the late '70s and vinyl was the only reasonable way.

flatcat, to vinyl

A friend asked me about how the history of vinyl formats and I wrote up this summary for them. I thought it was worth sharing here, if nothing else for the Techmoan link:

So, we started with wax cylinders. Then we moved to discs made of shellac. They were 10" and generally spun at (or near, as this video indicates) 78 RPM. But they didn't hold a lot of music. I think 10-12 minutes per side. The shellac was also not a great material, as it was brittle and not very high resolution, so there was a lot of background noise relative to vinyl.

What we have today is sort of a hybrid of all kinds of things. The vinyl material has been used on 10" records, even back then, and all of the 10" disks I have are modern vinyl 33RPM discs, made small mainly for novelty. The material is separate from the speed.

In the late 40s there was a format war between RCA and Columbia. I've put a short summary below, but far and away the best source to learn about this if you have 30 minutes is this video from the always entertaining Techmoan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbFgVjijrHI&t=1s

RCA developed the 45 7" AND with it, the stacking changer. The idea was that you'd have an album (just like old photo albums, I'm sure you've seen these) with a stack of 4-6 7" 45s, each holding a song, and the changer would drop them and play one at a time to play however many you had in a row. Then you could flip the whole stack over and play the other side. PROS: You get the benefit of either playing a single track or the equivalent of a whole album and 45RPM still sounded very good, better than shellac 78s and better than 33, though I doubt it was super obvious on the gear at the time. CONS: However, the number of discs and extra packaging to hold the same amount of songs as a 12" 33 meant they cost more. Plus you only got 5 minutes or so per side. Great for pop and blues, but quite limiting, and useless for classical.

Columbia's solution was the 12" 33rpm disc that could play up to 20 minutes or so. PRO: Longer run time, which even works for classical, one disc, still great sound quality, cheaper to produce. CONS: Larger, need to buy the whole album, but much, to be honest, but they do lack the punchiness of the best 45s.

So we ended up keeping both formats once players started being able to play both speeds - 7" 45s for singles, 12" 33s for albums. In the 70s they figured out that you could do long disco songs on a 12" 45 and it became the format for DJs and then of course the 12" 45 was a popular single format for all genres in the '80s.

Side note: there were also 16rpm 7" discs used for voice which didn't need high resolution. You got the longer running time with an inexpensive small disc or two that you could even package with a book "and turn the page when Tinkerbell rings her magic bell" but other than my grade-school experience with these, I don't know much about that format.

icastico, to vinyl
@icastico@c.im avatar

Ílhan Mímaroglu - Sing Me A Song of Songmy: A Fantasy For Electromagnetic Tape @vinylrecords

flatcat,

@icastico what the heck is this like? I don't follow Hubbard closely but do have a lot of his stuff and have never seen a reference to this.

flatcat,

Congrats! Not sure what kbin stands for, but Cabin (or Kabin) is just right there for an associated name.

Whiskeyomega, to vinyl
@Whiskeyomega@cupoftea.social avatar

Found an Original pressing for £13 today of INXS - Kick. Personally I think it lacks the slam the remastered release has so not sure I'm going to keep it @vinylrecords

flatcat,

@Whiskeyomega Reissues often boost the bass - personal preference for sure. Sometimes I like it sometimes... it's just too much of a good thing. Still, this one should slam.

flatcat,

@Whiskeyomega Fair enough! I moved from Tidal to Qobuz years ago, but Tidal wasn't bad... I wonder if you've tried both?

@vinylrecords

gnitro, to vinyl
@gnitro@urusai.social avatar

: Wynton Marsalis "Wynton Marsalis"

@vinylrecords

flatcat,

@gnitro I really love his whole Standard Time series. Is this his debut? I'm not sure I've heard it.

Drslimslimwini, to vinyl

Sunday morning vinyl.
Miles Davis, In A Silent Way.

flatcat,

@Drslimslimwini I got to start liking this once I realized that silent doesn't necessarily mean relaxed. Enjoy!

What Do you all use to clean your records and players ?

I got a Big Fudge kit with the velvet brush and I got to say its the best so far after 2 kits with cloths that just seem to get dirty too quickly. I think the cloths must put the dirt into other grooves of the records where as the velvet brushes just brush the dirt along the top of it and out the record....

flatcat,

I mainly use a Degritter (first generation) but have kept my VPI HW-17i vacuum around for dirtier used records and because it just does a different job than the Degritter. I also use the MoFi handheld brush or a Groovewasher for in-between cleans or to pick up dust from the platter if it's been a while since I've played anything.

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