feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

A lot of the accounts you follow and interact with on here are not Mastodon accounts!

For example, @theatticdwellers is a PeerTube account, @Iancylkowski is a Pixelfed account, @rstv is an OwnCast account.

There are dozens of different server types on here, not just Mastodon servers. When you talk about this place, it's not enough to call it "Mastodon", because it's more than just that.

That's why people call this place "The Fediverse", because that name covers all server types. :fediverse:

runarcn,

@feditips

I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Mastodon, is in fact, the Fediverse/Mastodon, or as I've recently taken to calling it, the Fediverse plus Mastodon. Mastodon is not a social network unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning federated system made useful by the ActivityPub protocol, web utilities, and vital social network components comprising a full fediverse.

writingslowly,
@writingslowly@aus.social avatar
acm_redfox,
@acm_redfox@jawns.club avatar

@runarcn ... was the point of the original post??

runarcn,

@acm_redfox It's a parody of a joke copypasta about why it's called GNU/Linux and not Linux

hackbyte,

@runarcn There's more to the and the than "just" activitypub.

And in so far, no its not "fediverse+mastodon" ... mastodon is just another part within the broader federation.

That's why i'm using friendica... Form here i can connect to DFRN, Diaspora* and AcitvitiPub ;)

runarcn,
2hip2bL7,

@theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv @feditips Would like to find a server dedicated to boomers born in 40s & 50s. Or if none exist, Would like to learn how to run a server and dedicate it to that tribe.

BlippyTheWonderSlug,
@BlippyTheWonderSlug@social.cologne avatar

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv
I still refuse to use much of the "accepted" nomenclature in , as I find it silly, and will never refer to posts as fart synonyms. Unless I'm talking about actual farts.

Beans, beans, that magical fruit
The more you eat, the more you toot
The more you toot, the better you feel
So eat some beans with every meal

zalintyre,
@zalintyre@chaos.social avatar

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv so, from a server's perspective, I could setup a Mastodon server and use it as a Pixelfed instance? What would be the key differences here?

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@zalintyre @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv

No, you can't run a server of one type as another type.

But people on different types of servers can follow each other and interact with each other seamlessly. See my latest post:

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/110436640828195904

zalintyre,
@zalintyre@chaos.social avatar

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv yeah, so I would have no advantages registering a second account on a Pixelfed instance?

boogiechild,

@feditips Understand.

Cassandra,

@feditips
I don't know who needs to know this, but I can't open most of the pictures on lancylkowski. I can see most (not all) on the feed. I am using vanilla Mastodon.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@Cassandra

Do you mean you can see the photos but clicking on them doesn't work?

Or that you can't see any posts from Mastodon?

writingslowly,
@writingslowly@aus.social avatar

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv I use , and appreciate how it connects to Mastodon and the fediverse. https://welcome.micro.blog/
Whatever overcomes the walled gardens of Facebook and the others. The Network is the social network.

acm_redfox,
@acm_redfox@jawns.club avatar

@feditips useful, and also no, there's no way I'm following video or audio feeds here, as those are my least favorite Mastodon (or Web) content. 😆 but good to know it's seamless!

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@acm_redfox

They're there if people want to follow :)

By the way, just to clarify my original post, it's not just audio and video, there are text-centric platforms like Friendica and Calckey on the Fedi too. Friendica was on the Fediverse before Mastodon.

tallship,
@tallship@social.sdf.org avatar

@feditips

I'm very glad to see you continuing to focus on the and NOT mastodon, just one part of the ecosystem.

.

allofmystudentsrunaway,

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv
i tell people its like the united federation of planets, unstable, in constant need of maintenance, but so much better than the alternative...sorry got star trek brain.

grinnpidgeon,

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv
Fed as in federation or federated?

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@grinnpidgeon

Both, as a federation is something that is federated.

"Federated Universe" is often cited as the long form:

https://fedi.video/w/9dRFC6Ya11NCVeYKn8ZhiD

olavf,

@grinnpidgeon
@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv

The Federation is generally considered to be apps that speak the W3C adopted ActivityPub. Federated in general just means decentralized. Diaspora* is an example that only talks to other diaspora* servers. If BS ever federates it'll be considered federated unless it supports ActivityPub.

adrianmorales,
@adrianmorales@ieji.de avatar

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv Sadly, neither PeerTube nor Pixelfed has an official mobile app that you can find on your phone's store.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@adrianmorales

You can use PeerTube through apps like FediLab or TubeLab for Android which are on Google Play.

Pixelfed has @vernissage for iPhone/iPad and @PixelDroid for Android (though PixelDroid isn't on Google Play). It also has official apps in public testing. More info at https://pixelfed.org/mobile-apps

lyssachiavari,
@lyssachiavari@wandering.shop avatar

@feditips Is there a way you can tell? The only clue I've had so far is if a post is waaaay longer than the average toot.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@lyssachiavari

It's designed to be seamless so that you don't notice if posts are from other server types, but there is a way of checking!

If you go to a post's original page, it will open it on the account's own server's website. The server's type will be obvious from the website's layout, logos etc.

Here's how to open original pages:

https://fedi.tips/what-are-original-pages-in-mastodon/

You can try this on the accounts I linked to in the first post of this thread, they will all open on non-Mastodon server websites.

katafrakt,

@feditips some clients show that information on the profile page, so it's one click away (attached screenshot from Fedilab). Also akkoma's (and I believe calckey's) default web frontends display an icon of the software next to every toot.
@lyssachiavari

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@katafrakt @lyssachiavari

Yes, Friendica also shows the poster's original server type with a little logo.

Saintajax33,

@feditips @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv so how does it work for something like publishing stories? If you used a fedi like https://writefreely.org

Could people from mastodon fallow you and get updates when you post?

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@Saintajax33 @theatticdwellers @Iancylkowski @rstv

You can follow Write Freely accounts, and when a new post is added it will appear in your Home timeline. For example @writefreely is the Write Freely project's own blog and is a Write Freely account.

A more flexible and powerful option is to use a WordPress blog. There is an official plugin made by @pfefferle and WordPress that allows independently hosted WordPress blogs to be followed from the Fediverse:

https://fedi.tips/wordpress-turning-your-blog-into-a-fediverse-server/

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