For kbin users, have a play in the settings area - the cog in the hamburger menu top left. You can customise it to look a bit like old.reddit, or Rif, or Sync by turning settings on and off. (previews, thumbnails, top bar etc.)
On that note, upvotes and downvotes upvote matter even less here ("here" meaning kbin) as the factor dictating comment order in the "hot" ranking is boosting (think retweet equivalent), not the vote count.
As far as kbin is concerned, it will appear under the "boosted" category. Some platforms handle this differently. To take a random user as an example, this fosstodon user has a bunch of posts which will show up separately from their boosts when viewed from kbin. But looking at their profile from Fosstodon itself, you will see posts and boosts mixed together as is the norm on Mastodon.
That's the federated aspect of those platforms at work. Assuming both instances of a given platform on the Fediverse (here, Fosstodon and kbin.social) are federated together, which they are by default, content from both will be accessible from users of the instances.
"So you can do away with the clickbait-y, karma or like farming..."
Are there many individual users who participate in these type of activities?
My understanding is that a lot of it is automated: farming with the intent to make accounts look legitimate and eventually manipulate public opinion to whatever ends (like selling a product/service).
Is kbin doing anything different that would curb or dissuade such behavior?
Eh, I don't see that changing here. There's no explicit profit motive on Reddit either (at least, not in terms of the Reddit account), but it still happens. Companies are incentivized to have titles that get clicks, and users just like seeing the number go up. It's just what happens.
In the mastodon/Calckey world you can migrate your account on one instance to a new account on a new instance and all the people following you will transfer and automatically follow your new account. So you don't have to be all "Hey moving to [xyz new instance] follow me there!"
That's something that's in the works for kbin and Lemmy some day
I'm curious if that works with unfederated servers or servers that simple just get shutdown. Ie xyz government decides to raid the servers, (is there redundancy in the data?)
Currently, no. Right now you tell your new instance to expect a transfer from your old. Then you tell your old your new instance and if they match, the transfer begins. In your example, you wouldn't be able to do half the steps needed so it would fail. And since each server is unique, it would be up to them whether or not there were any backups or not.
Thanks! Are the systems standalone or can they be distributed or mirrored? Seems like a potental single point of failure if the instance is literally running on someone's personal server.
That is unfortunately beyond my knowledge. I've never read up on settimg up an instance so I'm not sure. From the user side, I don't think most people mirror their instances, since most are volunteers renting space somewhere or running a small home instance for themselves or a small group.
I have seen the owner of an instance announce that they were shutting down in three months and to find a new home on a couple of occasions. Not quite the same, but a similar impermanence.
I guess the main challenge would be proving to the new instance that the old offline instance authorized the transfer, maybe something like a keypair could be generated with each account and a signed proof attached to the user profile that gets federated around as other servers receive user profile objects, then provide an account backup function that lets you save the keys as a file so the importing server can verify the key and federate the change of ownership of content to other instances somehow.
When you submit a reply or a post, always save it to your clipboard first. Lemmy has swallowed my responses many many times. In fact, it took me about 5-6 attempts to submit this comment.
I yolo'd the last sentence. For what it's worth, i think something is not right with my profile and the language settings. But I have learned to expect nothing to work. And when it does, i am pleasantly surprised.
Join a kbin instance and also join a Lemmy instance. Neither one is very stable yet (kbin has only been out a couple months) so I suggest using kbin until it starts having issues then switching to Lemmy for a while.
Aren't they cross compatible? I'm still fuzzy on the differences. Also lemmy instances were getting hammered, (as it looks like the kbin are too now), so thus my choice of kbin.
The downtime is getting better though. I made this kbin account like 2 days ago and logged off right away cuz I was trying to figure out magazines and each time I clicked something, it said I was not logged in and I had to relog.
Today I’m trying it out again and everything is working, though sometimes I get a 503 error if I try to open a page or post something
Normally, yes! You can browse and interact with lemmy communities from kbin and vice versa with absolutely no problems.
However, since both are still so new, it's common for one or both to crash. And if your home interface is down, you won't be able to vote or comment anywhere until it comes back online-- even on other instances which are still up. So if you're an impatient person (like me, lol), it makes sense to make an account on each, so if one crashes you can switch to the other.
I'm not too familiar with kbin but if you've been experiencing invisible posts then it could be worth suggesting it as a feature? Hopefully things like this get better ironed out soon
This whole system is a lot newer than most services you've used on the Internet. It's under constant change. Expect it to look different next week, month, or year.
Agreed. The systems are being flooded from the migration. Communities are quickly being formed. A little patience and people rolling up their sleeves to make it better go a long way.
Absolutely this. If you are looking for a community and you have issues finding, make it easier to find by letting others know. If it doesn't exist or lacking content, add it or build it.
Sort by all>top day, or all>new, or subscribed>new. Find an instance that is not defederated all over. Create posts and comments. Break your bad habits you had on reddit. And be patient. This is a platform that lends itself to organic growth and organization of content. The more you use it, the better it becomes. Lemmy etc are what we as a community want it to be.
Oh hey, the star is there for me too. As an old, I sometimes have issues recognizing all the diverse pictograms that modern tech design uses. Many of them are not intuitive, or are not standardized enough to assume any meaning without prior experience. In this case they're also really tiny on a phone screen.
if you're asking for kbin, I think there is no way at the moment, but I'm sure the developers will add it soon. kbin is a newer aggregator compared to lemmy
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