d3Xt3r, (edited )

Any phone that can run GrapheneOS, which is arguably the most secure full-featured (as in: all the functionality you’d expect in a modern smartphone + compatible with popular mobile apps) mobile OS right now.

GrapheneOS is heavily focused on protection against attackers exploiting unknown (0 day) vulnerabilities. They employ techniques such as attack surface reduction (stripping out unnecessary code, disabling insecure components etc); using hardened system components (such as the kernel) that makes it much harder for hackers to exploit; and finally using sandboxing technologies (eg per-website browser sandbox, app sandboxing, media codec sandboxing etc).

A more interesting thing is the sandboxed Google Play Services support, which allows the option to use Google apps (such as the Play Store) in a fully sandboxed environment without granting them any special privileges.

You should check out the full feature set, it’s a LOT more impressive than what I hastily summarised above.

This focus on both privacy and security, with minimal negative impact to the user experience, IMO makes GrapheneOS probably the smartest choice for users concerned about mobile security and therefore, phones which run GrapheneOS (currently only Google Pixel phones) would be the smartest smartphone.

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

I bought a Pixel 8 a couple months ago and put grapheneos on it. I had an old (ok, ancient) android phone prior.

BIG learning curve for me with this phone but I can do things I want/need to and it is VERY secure...more secure than I fully understand.

It has been interesting and I keep learning about how to use the OS and apps. WAY more functionality than I expected.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

This comment is GrapheneOS propaganda making its way into Lemmy. Ban these 4chan tier advertisers.

AOSP with rebranded features is not doing anything over AOSP or LineageOS.

  • Every app on Android is sandboxed
  • there is no immutability thing with Android
  • WebView already runs sandboxed by default on Android in general
  • energy saving is dependent on phone chips and not this scam Android distro
  • closed source hardware is the same as Intel ME/AMD PSP and not a “trusted element”
  • Android is unified, there is nothing unique about this scam distro

GrapheneOS is pure snake oil with a disgusting sole developer that believes in pushing corporate Big Tech propaganda, harassing and witch hunting any critics, having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this, abuses mentally challenged by hiding behind “autism” label (Louis Rossmann has a nice video), falsely claims he was swatted without giving evidence or coverage in local Canadian media and blames everyone from redditors to community mods to YouTubers and so on.

I covered this disease for about 5 years, and it emanates from the same sewer that “security” clowns like Brad Spengler and madaidan do in Linux community. All they do is either push their bullshit solutions or push corporate Big Tech propaganda and hate any FOSS project they think will not worship them.

old.reddit.com/…/writeup_criticism_of_rprivacygui…

old.reddit.com/…/grapheneos_corporate_foss_loving…

drawerair, (edited )

Pixel 8 pro or Samsung s24 ultra

Please view Marques Brownlee’s review of each if you want.

bloodfart,

Os,ui,features: one of the iphones with lidar.

Functions: it depends on what you see yourself doing. I keep an android phone for the second number and using as a usb drive, sd card reader, other computer crap. It’s rare that i use it though, the circumstances where i want to host pxe boot or something and don’t have a computer are few and far between.

Ai: I don’t know. Most of it is done in the cloud so the phone doesn’t actually matter.

wuphysics87,

Fairphone. Most forward thinking. Perhaps that isn’t smart. Perhaps it is wise.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Even better: it’s intelligent.

MxM111,
MxM111 avatar

The phones are general purpose computers, and as such, “there is an app for that” including for all AI features you want. There is no real difference in smartphones. I, for example, very often use ChatGPT 4 on my iPhone, arguably one of the smartest AI tool currently. But I could have use any other AI tool, on any other smartphone today.

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

I am all for people using graphene, but the number of people here pushing for it are clearly more excited about the prospect of talking about graphene than they are actually interested in answering the question lol

Omega_Haxors,

One without stupid bullshit on it.

bionicjoey,

This is like asking “what computer can run Doom the best?”

My dude, they all can.

13esq,

Right.

It’s absolutely not worth buying the latest and greatest flagships anymore. The experience to the user is almost identical whether you’re spending £1000 or £300.

Personally I’d much rather spend that £700 difference elsewhere and just buy a new phone that’s a couple of generations old.

rufus,

Entirely depends on the software you install on it?!

I mean the OS and UI don’t give you “smartness”. And I’m not completely sure about the definition. I for example think it’s smart not letting big tech companies steal all your data. So I might choose a different OS and different Apps than somebody else.

Concerning AI: I think ChatGPT runs on all of them. And I think all the assistants also run more or less in the cloud and don’t depend on the exact phone model. However, there are AI things that run on the phone itself. Camera picture enhancement and speech recognition for example.

Manufacturers often advertise with new AI features and unlock them on their newest flagship models. So the answer to your question regarding AI in preinstalled apps is probably: The current most expensive flagship models of Google/Samsung/Apple. One will have a slightly better camera AI, one a better photo editor and one a better AI assistant.

Syn_Attck,

You nailed it, the question is far too vague to be meaningful.

I consider my phone not giving away all my data to be smart.

Someone else might think smart is giving away all your data so AI can make sense of it and improve the convenience.

xmunk,

My Nokia flip phone from 2001.

li10,

I don’t know how much I even want from a phone these days. Just seems like things have stagnated in the mobile market for the past few years.

I honestly don’t know what I enjoy more about my current phone compared to the one I had 10 years ago.

They can be used for communication, payments, maps, music, YT and browsing the web. I think I’ll just get a small, cheap phone next time, as it’ll still check all those boxes.

Skua,

I've been using a £100 Nokia for everything listed except payments for years. Even the camera is alright, although definitely not up to the standards of the flagship phones

SharkMommy,
@SharkMommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The best camera is the one you carry with everywhere you go

Gamera8ID, (edited )
@Gamera8ID@discuss.online avatar

particularly AI

The Google Pixel 8 Pro is the only phone I am aware of where local AI capability was mentioned heavily in its marketing. (It’s also the only phone that is produced by a current leading company in the AI space.) I italicized “marketing” because my understanding from what I’ve been reading is that a lot of deeper Gemini AI integration won’t come until the P9P, though it might be possible to be backported to the P8P.

TheButtonJustSpins,

A Pixel with grapheneOS? Get full control of your phone.

xep,

I did this recently. It's nice to have entirely sandboxed Google services, and I like the dot that shows up when there's sensor access. Storage/Contact scopes are fantastic. There are a couple of cons though, such as not having Call Screen, and no form of any charge limiting / charging control for battery life.

It's a good experience and I can recommend it whole heartedly. Use an external way of controlling the charging to protect the battery, GrapheneOS' developers aren't well informed when it comes to battery management.

Sabata11792,
Sabata11792 avatar

I was considering a Graphine Pixel further down the road. What would I need for battery management?

user224,

I’ll have to go for PinePhone.

Quite underpowered, but the available software… It seems it’s like having a Raspberry Pi in your pocket.

But I don’t know what you really mean by “smartest”. It could also mean a phone that oversimplifies thing for its user.

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