I think your best bet fighting a Kangaroo would be to work it from the sides, Kangaroos can’t jump backwards and usually punch or grapple and kick forwards. If you consider it like a southpaw fighting an orthodox boxer, they would have their lead foot on the outside of the orthodox fighters, making the orthodox constantly having to turn towards them while they work from the side and continue pivoting keeping an advantage on their opponent.
Yeah, and it’s even higher than it appears at first cause the scale only goes up to 80%. So >30% of responders don’t think they can beat a rat in a fight.
Nah, ducks have hollow bones, making them pretty crap in physical combat against creatures that don’t. As long as you can avoid the beak, you should be fine.
Duck-sized horses, on the other hand, would still be faster and stronger than humans even if it’s scaled 1:1 relative to horse size vs duck size and there’s a hundred of them! You’d be swarmed in no time!
Nah, they would be out for blood in this scenario, otherwise the premise of fighting them wouldn’t make any sense. The bigger problem for the tiny horses is their inability to reach the upper parts of your body. Sure, they probably have a mean bite, but because of their size and the shape of their teeth they most likely won’t be able to enclose your leg. A horse bite crushes, so keep your fingers away and you are most likely fine.
They also have hooves, so no scratching and climbing. Horses hooves are dangerous because they have a massive horse behind it when it comes flying towards you. Take that away and they could be baby fist for all you should care.
If you look at their jumping capabilities, yea they ar impressive for an animal of their size, but once you are 30cm tall it’s much less impressive to jump as high as you are tall (and horses really don’t jump all that high, most of it comes from tucking their legs).
If you compare the tiny horse to a cat, the cat would be much more dangerous, because it has claws, sharp teeth and can reach your face. As long as you wear heavy boots and have a good stomping/kicking technique you should be fine versus duck sized horses.
The tiny 1ft -ish extinct Dawn-Horse was a real thing. PBS documentary modeled it as skittish, jumpy, fast, tough enough to drag and push logs. Catch a couple of those and you got youself a pair of 30mph roller skates. 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎
1 horse-sized duck, male, that’s in the mood… Ever witness firemen tackle a charged firehose that broke loose and is whipping around… amorously. Now put a Clydesdale at the end of that. You may be chance lucky enough to distract it with bread, but can really only fight it from space.
Are horse legs actually fragile, or does it take a lot of effort to break one?
If fragile, I think people are overcomplicating this. You’ll probably get fucked up in the process, but once the horse is crippled your grim deed is done. If they’re not fragile and you’ll need to seriously wrassle them down to exert enough force, you’re almost certainly dead.
You’re most welcome. It always stuck with me because as a child I had a horsey friend whose mother had a massive skin graft on one arm where a horse had tried to remove her jumper. Every time I see one of those vids of a feral stallion just tossing a foal in the air with it’s teeth it reminds me of it :( I love horses too, but yup they are very powerful animals.
You mean like, fighting a horse by punching it? No that fucker gonna kill you. You might win if you have a spear and you know how to use it. But if it gets to you with it’s hooves you’ve lost.
Now if you can convince the horse you’re a lot scarier than you are, it might do what you want it to.
Now if you can convince the horse you’re a lot scarier than you are, it might do what you want it to.
Only reason why they don’t kill us on sight after all we’ve put them through: for all their amazing physical prowess, they’re also easily spooked idiots 😂
You can literally put a plastic bag on a stick and shake it at them and they will go wherever you want. Cuz it’s spooky, but not all that spooky. It’s like shaking that thing means you’re the master of the spooky stick.
Does my prep time involve sourcing weapons? I think a sledgehammer would do the trick if I can hide out at the fight zone prior to the horse arriving then sneak attack.
Eat alfalfa. Jump the fence and be 10 miles away from where you expect it to be. You’ll never find it before you have to sleep, and that’s when it’ll get ya.
I mean, to be fair, boar are hunted with spears, knights used Lances, and pike blocks were the end all be all counter to cavalry for thousands of years, specifically because sharp sticks are really good at killing things in a head on collision situation. Horse kinda doesn’t stand a chance if you bring a proper stick tbh lol
All of the things in the first sentence are true, yet I am still confident that the horse wins unless you are a knight WITH a lance or a boar hunter. I’ll even give you might get lucky and inflict a mortal wound, but that horse is still gonna kill you. I’ll also point out that the knight with the lance has his own horse, otherwise that won’t work either.
In any case the assertion that was made by the other comment was that you could stay out of the horse’s range and throw the spear which, no, you could not. Setting a spear, which I think is what you’re suggesting, might work, but you still need to make a spear long enough and strong enough to beat the horse’s range, and you have to successfully keep it between you and the horse, and even if you did all those things a lucky hoof blow could break your carved stick. Mostly, you die from a flailing hoof in this scenario.
I’m by no means saying this is a definitive win. Just that setting a spear (I perhaps should have mentioned this in the previous comment) is a historically proven method of countering a charge. You might still die but I think with a proper spear odds might actually be in your favor if only slightly
In this very skilly hyper specific scenario where you are tasked with fighting a horse to the death, but with the stipulation that you are given prep time, I believe you could find and properly whittle a passable enough stick to function as a rudamdntary spear for the purpose of bracing against a charge, and that’s assuming you don’t have some particularly sharp metal/rocks on hand with some basic lashing materials. If the horse pulls up and tries to canter around the set spear you could hoist it up and now you have range. If it pulls back for another charge? Set it again. You don’t have to thrust with it, just hold it point out and wait for the horse to either impale itself or get tired. That’s how boar hunts work after all.
Like yeah I don’t like your odds lmao but its not nearly as doomed as you might think imo
You have given me much to think about here for my upcoming battle with some guy’s horse
While I now feel more confident about the overall strategy on my side, I do feel some concern about the horse using its time to build what it has called “the Bipedcutioner”
“On that day, mankind received a grim reminder. We lived in fear of the horses, and were disgraced to live in these cages we called walls. But then we make sharp stick.”
Note, they are actually much larger than the average silicon version of it. The largest I could find was 43 cm long, which is OK to take. But normally, they’re ~1 m when e… oh wait, you mean “take” as in “win against”, nvm.
I used to work with horses. They may be larger than the average silicon version, but if you can find it, there once was a picture of a yellow gel one (Thor Jr., I think) with a forearm and fist right next to it to compare it to, and that one should have been placed next to a real one.
I could probably take my cat in a fight. There would be significant casualties on my side, to be sure, but I believe I could emerge victorious in the end.
Maybe a miniature pony I could take. Pretty sure I could put one down in a rear naked choke hold. There’s not a danged thing I could do against a horse that wants to fight me in unarmed combat.
Just to further unbalance things, the Internet tells me that the maximum output of a horse is actually 15 horsepower! So by my math that means there are 59 legs still standing?
When people say stuff like this, I assume they never lived much outside of cities, and never had much contact with animals, besides pets. Seriously, a horse? Even smaller animals can be a challenge. Most animals are stronger and/or faster than us, and have fangs, claws, etc.
I mean I or you certainly couldn’t get it in PvP. But if you can scare it enough so it starts to run, a human (of old times) would win.
If you have trail finding/following skills, you can literally chase it to exhaustion. Humans have one of the best stamina in the animal kingdom. We used to chase animals until they just couldn’t move further. Apart from hunting in groups, that was our thing.
But if can’t put up a good fight, I’d feel too guilty to hurt it. For me it’s gotta be something I have a good chance against but that isn’t just utterly defenseless lol
Yeah but if you have prep time, you can make a massive spear and thrower (I forget what those are called), an able bodied man could probably take a horse with one of those.
I don’t know anyone (who is not already a professional in this) who could make a spear in an hour. Best most would do was to get a couple of injuries while trying to make a spear.
With enough prep time, you can purchase a shotgun. More than half a pound of lead pellets will bring a horse down if it’s delivered at the typical velocity.
Ignoring venom and poison, the most dangerous animal a human could realistically win against would be a wolf. That doesn’t mean I could win against a wolf, but some humans can and have.
There was that one guy that choked a bear to death with the bloody stump of his wrist after the bear bit his hand off, so I’d say that counts as a technical win.
According to that article, about 1.5 times stronger. There’s a lot more deviation than that in the human population. So going by that article, if the type of person who could take on a wolf got lucky enough to be matched with an average chimp, I think they’d have a chance. Especially if they can think of a way to take advantage of the chimp’s poor endurance (also in the article).
Humans get up to 2 m (6,75 feet) tall, of course there are even taller people but this is still a healthy size. Also chimps weigh like 70 kg max while a human can be healthy weigh more than 90 kg. The question is if we get a matched opponent in terms of strength and body weight relative to their own species.
If there’s a 5% chance you could take a wolf there’s an absolute 0% chance against a chimp. A monkey or ape bigger than 3 feet tall with malice towards me is probably about the dead last thing I’d want to fight in the animal kingdom. Top three for sure.
Chimpanzees get up to five feet tall and have up to an 8 foot wingspan. The average human female is 5’4 “and males average 5’9” with a proportional wingspan. Chimps have a very high amount of fast twitch muscle fibers which are significantly stronger than the slow twitch muscle fibers that make up the majority of human muscles.
Chimps have extremely long arms with way more lean muscle mass. And that muscle mass is 50% stronger than a human’s, making chimps 3-4 times stronger than the average human. It has massive incisors with a bite force of *** 1300 psi (8900 kPa}***. That’s more than a grizzly bear’s 950 psi.
You have a fighting chance against a wolf. You have zero chance unarmed against a full grown chimp. It will literally rip you apart with ease.
You use average for humans and up to for chimps? Also body weight is a far better comparison and a strong and large human can weigh at least 1.5 times more than a chimp so the strength difference isn’t great if at all present.
You’re the person that dies first in a horror movie because you’re too stubborn to listen to actual facts presented to you. Chimps are absolute killing machines. I don’t care if you’re 6 foot 6 and 250 pounds of pure muscle - you will not win a fight against a fully grown chimpanzee. They have two 1+ inch fangs and a bite force of 1300psi. That’s enough to bite clean through most any bone in your body. Male chimps reach about 150 or so pounds, but can get larger.
This is what happens when a chimp attacks a human:
The emergency crew described Nash’s injuries as “horrendous”.[19] Within the following 72 hours, Nash underwent more than seven hours of surgery on her face and hands by four teams of surgeons. The hospital provided counseling to its staff members who initially treated her because of the extraordinary nature of Nash’s wounds.[27] Paramedics noted she had lost 9 fingers, nose, eyes, lips, and mid-face bone structure and received significant brain tissue injuries.[28] Doctors removed chimpanzee hair and teeth that had been implanted into her bones and reattached her jaw…
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