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@punko Responding just to you because I don't follow Chris or vice versa. I'll respond to each of the points by number.

  1. Nobody is arguing that Meta is not allowed into the Fediverse, so this is a red herring.

  2. This is right. A mass fediblock is not happening, and IMO it shows what a huge problem the big instances are.

  3. Also right. But I'm not aware of anyone making the argument that "we should defederate from Meta because most people in the fediverse don't want to interact with them". We already knew people on the huge instances didn't give a shit.

  4. I could not care less if Meta decides to expose their own users to fascists. And to the extent this makes Meta users' lives worse, GOOD.

  5. Yet another red herring. I've already discussed this issue at length. There is a huge difference between handing Meta your data on a silver platter and having it be scrapable with a robots.txt file or a robots meta tag that says don't scrape it.

I don't really know if there will be 3 factions, but I've been pushing for defederating from the largest instances for a while now. Their existence makes the Fediverse de-facto centralized under the control of people who have shown themselves uniquely unqualified to have any power over it. If faction 3 would be infeasible, the early fediverse would also have been infeasible. People who want to be in faction 3 aren't going to move to faction 2 or 1. In fact they'll move FROM the other factions.

And frankly, if Meta can just come in and there's nothing we can do about it, then the Fediverse is a failed experiment and should just die.

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