elrac,
elrac avatar

Ernest did say that turning on the cloudflare bot check may break federation.

dragfyre,
dragfyre avatar

T_T

noodlejetski,

it looks like it's federating, but with a delay. the post I've sent from kbin to Beehaw's community wasn't visible on their website yesterday, but it did sync overnight.

doc, (edited )

Looks like new communities/magazines aren't federating out, either. :-\

Few related questions for anyone knowledgeable about the fediverse:

  1. If the original instance in which a community was created is no longer running will that community disappear as well? For example, will @kbinMeta@kbin.social live on if kbin.social proper dies one day?
  2. How are duplicate communities handled? Ie, @misc@kbin.social vs @misc@beehaw.org vs @misc.lemmy.*? Unless there's something to reconcile differences between these I can see this becoming very messy and hard for non-techies to understand.
  3. Messages via Reddit etc are nearly real-time because of the centralized platform, but I can't see how federated content can behave the same. How are time lags related to federated content propagation handled? Are they common? I can't imagine all these instances sharing information super rapidly on the back-end is simple or inexpensive (CPU/bandwidth/$). Say some post on one instance generates a lot of replies, how quickly will everyone see those replies across other instances? For example, if I were to post "I have 60 seconds to disarm this bomb, which wire do I cut? help!" on kbin and someone replies in 34 seconds after my post is visible on beehaw, what are my chances of being blown up?
alternative_factor,
alternative_factor avatar

I can't even register for lemmy or beehaw, I just get an endless loop on my attempts to sign up and the Lemmy.ml main page says their servers are overloaded.

Apex,

Same, I’ve been trying to register on Beehaw for more than a day. Glad to hear it’s not just me!

jeena,
jeena avatar

I think lemmy.world is a better alternative anyway http://lemmy.world/post/37906

LazaroFilm,
LazaroFilm avatar

Well .world is also spinning when logging in now…

BackOnMyBS,
BackOnMyBS avatar

i haven't had any problems all day on lemmy.world. however, it did take me 2 days to sign up. btw, the admin added 2 new admins and upgraded the server today (technically yesterday Jun 10).

themadcodger,
themadcodger avatar

Yeah as the flagship server and then the one recommended because the first got too full, those two might not be taking any more people for the time being. It's one to keep the servers from being hugged to death and two hopefully to encourage others to spin up an instance and share the load/keep from centralizing in one place.

skulblaka,
skulblaka avatar

The natural response for most new users will be to join already large servers, which is exactly what we don't want here. I learned that only recently (am a new user myself). Perhaps we should consider a line on the join-lemmy server list that says as much. Otherwise people will probably keep flooding the flagships and our rate of user growth will be severely hampered.

At least if we put a warning on the server list we're at least filtering out users that don't read.

NRVulture,
NRVulture avatar

I had a similar issue/question - I tried to post a comment on a lemmy.world post using a kbin.social account, I can see it on kbin.social but when I go to the actual post on lemmy.world, my comment was not there. Am I doing something wrong?

MeowdyPardner,
MeowdyPardner avatar

The connection between the two might be overloaded currently. I have checked that comments from my kbin.social account to lemmy.ml posts are showing up on lemmy.ml, so I know that at least is working for me.

arkcom,
arkcom avatar

I think something is wrong with lemmy.ml or boston@lemmy.ml. I wasn't able to find it through beehaw or lemmy.world

Kichae,

kbin threads should be the equivalent of lemmy posts. Microblogging posts here are the equivalent of Mastodon posts.

I'm left wondering if the servers are just struggling to keep up with the load. When Twitter users flooded Mastodon, post syncing got hours behind schedule. Or maybe something's just bugging out.

ShesDayDreaming,
ShesDayDreaming avatar

Yeah I think so, sometimes when I refresh i get a cloudflare error or the page takes longer to load.

With a lot of people moving over from Reddit it's going to be a crazy few days/weeks.

Kichae,

Yeah. That's happening on kbin.social because the admin turned on some DDoS defenses. The site has seen exponential growth the last couple of days.

EnglishMobster,
EnglishMobster avatar

Kbin.social is now the largest single Reddit clone on the Fediverse IIRC.

Lemmy is still bigger if you combine all the instances, but Kbin is the largest single instance. Kbin hasn't really seen other instances be created yet though (anecdotally, I hit some snags trying to get my own instance set up).

Kichae,

I also hit some snags. Did the docker image not compile for you, either?

EnglishMobster,
EnglishMobster avatar

The Docker image compiled, but I got caught in a redirect loop whenever I tried to accept the auto-generated certificate.

Bear in mind I tried this a week ago.

nightauthor,
nightauthor avatar

Might it have something to do with the type of content?
I noticed, looking in your profile that KBin refers to your boston content as a 'thread' while lemmy calls such things posts.
There are 'posts' in kbin, so maybe you need to make a new 'post' on kbin.

Just guessing

WooChooTrain,

That's possible! I thought that could be the issue. I was a bit confused because it looks like "posts" are put in the "microblog" category on kbin which I thought loosely corresponds to Mastadon-style posts. But maybe I'm wrong...

nightauthor,
nightauthor avatar

I did make a microblog on that boston community, and it showed up on lemmy.

Based on the state of lemmy, I'm guessing the microblog->post issue is on the lemmy side of things.

WooChooTrain,

Thanks for trying that! Inconsistencies like that are probably why comments don't sync correctly, right? For instance, on this thread (https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/10635/Today-at-23-00-GMT-there-will-be-a-30-minute-technical) there are 13 comments, whereas on the corresponding thread in Lemmy (https://lemmy.ml/post/1194271) only 3 comments show up.

lixus98,
lixus98 avatar

I think the intermittence of kbin also affects the propagation of posts/comments. However it seems like we are getting an upgrade soon to handle so many new users.

acedelgado,
acedelgado avatar

Don't forget to buy Ernest a coffee so he can put some finances towards upgrading the server!

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