realhackhistory,
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Thus begins a first for me on two levels, one I will be simultaneously live tweeting, tooting and skeeting along with a movie and two that movie will be Swordfish from 2001, which I have never seen before.

On I will be adding the hashtag in case people want to mute me.

realhackhistory,
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This is already so cyber.

realhackhistory,
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John Travolta's facial hair got me like whoa. Is this opening sequence supposed to be a rip off of Tarantino dialog?

realhackhistory,
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Why is this opening filmed like a concussion induced flashback?

realhackhistory,
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Everyone has either a bomb vest or facial topiary, nobody escapes one or the other.

realhackhistory,
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Everything has that washed out Matrix green hue.

realhackhistory,
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How is anyone surviving this CGI ball bearing, slow motion apocalypse.

realhackhistory,
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And there it is, "4 DAYS EARLIER", I guess you are wondering how I, song and dance man Hugh Jackman, got myself into this cyber mess

realhackhistory,
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Is he allowed to be in this movie without that facial hair? Where is your soul patch sir?

realhackhistory,
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Man airport security was lax back then huh, dude just walks off.

realhackhistory,
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Oh this guy plays by his own rules, though I have to wonder why the towel, especially if he is in middle of nowhere Texas

jef,
@jef@mastodon.social avatar

@realhackhistory I know there are versions where Ms. Berry wears / doesn't wear a bikini top, maybe there's a no towel version out there too.

realhackhistory,
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The most dangerous hacker in America on the NSA's yearly list of most dangerous hackers

realhackhistory,
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Oh he's banned from touching computers, that answers my next question about internet access in rural Texas in 2001.

realhackhistory,
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We get it alright, geeze, okay, porn.

realhackhistory,
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Finland portrayed as some kind of international law ignoring hacker hideout is a bit random? Or have I missed something about Finland. I guess they have let zeekill run riot over the years.

DialupDownload,
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@realhackhistory maybe the script writer had a really bad experience getting meatballs in the cafeteria that day

realhackhistory,
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We need to reach some kind of consensus on who the best hacker in the world is, someone call the NSA please and get the current list.

jbaggs,

@realhackhistory Good thing they didn't say: "number one hacker".

realhackhistory,
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Is this dude Torvalds speaking Finnish even?

realhackhistory,
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"You know how difficult it is to work a keyboard with one hand?"

Questions that sound like innuendo but are meant to be threatening. This interrogation escalated rapidly.

realhackhistory,
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I am definitely prepared to accept that John Travolta "exists in a world beyond your world", especially after seeing him acting at the start of the movie.

realhackhistory,
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I imagine this as a casting call for Matrix Revolutions.

realhackhistory,
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Oh yes, straight into a secret underground club scene in a warehouse or something with Kraftwerk samples belting out.

realhackhistory,
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John Travolta's character Gabriel does all his best secret scheme explaining in front of a dozen or so people beside a crowded nightclub dancefloor and I respect that as I too like to live dangerously.

Bring out the laptop!

realhackhistory,
@realhackhistory@chaos.social avatar

Now we are getting somewhere, what do you think of this login prompt, you hacker!

realhackhistory,
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Stanley is handed a shot of tequila and then has a shot of tequila forcibly spat into his mouth, was this the grand plan to make him touch a computer in contravention of his parole conditions if the money didn't work?

realhackhistory,
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"Maybe slide a Trojan horse hiding a worm?"

( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

realhackhistory,
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NOW they close the nightclub curtains. Oh yikes.

realhackhistory,
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What am I looking at, the on-screen graphics department must have just read the script and shrugged

feonixrift,

@realhackhistory kerning intern on vacation, dang.

realhackhistory,
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These guys are bringing their drinks into the bathroom with them but draw the line at an "audience".

realhackhistory,
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Wired 🤝 NSA

realhackhistory,
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Is this guy just waving around VHS porn tapes at work

realhackhistory,
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Oh yes we are enhancing grainy CCTV footage

realhackhistory,
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"I dropped a logic bomb through the trap door".

realhackhistory,
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Well in THAT case, let's get hacking!

realhackhistory,
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This system literally puts them behind seven (different network) proxies.

realhackhistory,
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This is such an awkwardly sexually aggressive movie and is that how you are meant to hold a cigar, there is so much going on here

realhackhistory,
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Everyone acting like Hugh Jackman's character is wearing a dirty potato sack as clothing because he isn't in a weird silk suit.

realhackhistory,
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So the plot line of having to hack for some mad organized crime boss to get money together for a custody battle in court isn't terrible.

realhackhistory,
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Is the rest of the movie just everyone rolling down the side of a steep, rocky hill, endlessly

realhackhistory,
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Hang on, let me get my calculator and I'll need a whiteboard and some markers

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@realhackhistory that would be "layerone". usually happens in april

realhackhistory,
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Ah so there's a secret DEA bank account from undercover drug money laundering from the 80s, of course.

realhackhistory,
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"Sorry Steve, but that's clearly 5 people standing and sitting, did you forget to put in your contact lenses again this morning"

realhackhistory,
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Dude is routing his connection through Belgium twice (!) and then Luxembourg, so you know he's serious.

realhackhistory,
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I did not expect this weird "ethernet cable view" of his packets going through the basement of the university.

realhackhistory,
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1.2? Come on now, Worm Generator Tool v.1.3 is the better option and we all know it. The worms are uh, slimier to get dropped in the trapdoors much more easily.

realhackhistory,
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Am I wrong to hope for an ASCII art worm on screen wriggling about at some point

realhackhistory,
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What kind of crazy bulletproof laptop is the Senator working with here lol

realhackhistory,
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The Senator's staff must be used to him communicating solely in dog based metaphor

realhackhistory,
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Oh my goodness, the bits of this movie I've seen gifs of! Hugh Jackman is about to make some excited computer man faces.

realhackhistory,
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realhackhistory,
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Me waiting all night for a song to download off of Napster only to find it failed in the morning

realhackhistory,
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This is how I imagine French intellectuals hack.

realhackhistory,
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"The bank's IDS logs every packer that go to any port other than the 22 or 80 TCP."

What a sentence.

realhackhistory,
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Wait a minute, is this a Travolta "Face/Off" twist?! Do we have a second Travolta? I can barely handle one

realhackhistory,
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"John Travolta is the T11000 IN Terminator 6: Silken Cyborg"

realhackhistory,
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Scenes that make you realize Hackers the movie was sorely missing a machinegun vehicular jousting sequence.

realhackhistory,
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At this point why don't they just go into the bank they want to rob via computer with good old fashioned guns? Oh wait, the beginning of the movie is coming back to me.

realhackhistory,
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The wardrobe department were clearly a law unto themselves in this movie

symmetrizer,
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@realhackhistory Damn, you made me want to rewatch swordfish

realhackhistory,
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@symmetrizer it is a trip!

realhackhistory,
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So the Senator has sent someone undercover to assume John Travolta as Gabriel's identity because something something secret stash of DEA money? Is anyone involved in this elaborate criminal plot just a plain old criminal?

realhackhistory,
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J Edgar Hoover gets name dropped! Secret government program inception!

realhackhistory,
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Oh I've seen this booth at Blackhat, if you collect 3 tokens you can ride in the bus and you get a LOCKBOX antivirus baseball cap

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@realhackhistory "we spent all the money on the bus and the tradeshow floor instead of spending a single cent on hardening or securing any of our products"

realhackhistory,
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Was all that chain smoking and drinking red wine for nothing then?

realhackhistory,
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The same criminal mastermind who likes discussing hacking the DoD in a crowded nightclub has decided the best way to steal hundreds of millions from a bank is to drive a humvee through the front door of the bank in broad daylight.

realhackhistory,
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I hope that F5 is patched. Nice cabling I guess.

realhackhistory,
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Who kidnapped Hugh Jackman's daughter, I'm so confused.

realhackhistory,
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Oh wait so it was Travolta's character Gabriel but there's some weird time jump from the ex's house to the bank and then a sort of rehash of the beginning of the movie? The backend of this film is a mess.

realhackhistory,
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Oh no!

realhackhistory,
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So can Stanley retrieve the money or not because I'm getting mixed messages here. Are the script writers even sure whether he can or not?

realhackhistory,
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Stanley got his bluff called in like 5 minutes max.

realhackhistory,
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Oh yes man, give me those Sneakers phone call vibes

realhackhistory,
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This movie makes the classic mistake of directly and indirectly referencing better movies that highlight the inadequacies of the movie itself, all this Dog Day Afternoon hat tipping isn't helping anything. I do like that this time it's an antivirus branded, circuit-board themed bus though?

realhackhistory,
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Up, up and away!

realhackhistory,
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I'm starting to think buses weren't meant to be flown about by helicopters.

realhackhistory,
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Chekov's RPG.

realhackhistory,
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The end of this movie seems to be basically this

realhackhistory,
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Well everyone we got there in the end! 🥳

realhackhistory,
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The end of this movie really makes me unsure of whether the writers are endorsing the world view of Travolta's character or not. This wasn't as bad as I expected, I'm prepared to admit that!

realhackhistory,
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I do feel like about half way through the movie the script writers or director was sick of techno-babble and decided they just wanted a straight up by the book action movie which makes the plot unnecessarily convoluted, but maybe there was a concern that hackers alone wouldn't sell cinema tickets.

realhackhistory,
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This was an emotional journey, I think I'll do it again with another movie I've never seen closer to Christmas.

snap2grid,
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@realhackhistory
Cheers, that was fun!

realhackhistory,
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@snap2grid thanks!

rmmonster,
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@realhackhistory
That is how I remember the movie and how I like to remember it. As dissolving into chaotic ambiguity in the end.

realhackhistory,
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@rmmonster yeah I feel like they probably had a few different ideas for how it might end and maybe couldn’t decide?

rmmonster,
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@realhackhistory
It feels like ages since I watched it. I'm sure if I re-watched it, there would be more sens to make of it all, but I really like when things get chaotic in a movie. I don't need it to give me closure, I prefer it to be intense over it.
Sure there might be a mundane explanation to why this came to be this way, but for me it would take away from the magic of it.

realhackhistory,
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@rmmonster the ending definitely is intense, flying a bus through a city dangling from a helicopter!

jbaggs,

@realhackhistory Man. Quentin Tarantino had no idea what he was unleashing on us.

realhackhistory,
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@jbaggs real sketchy monologues!

jbaggs,

@realhackhistory I was thinking more about him reviving Travolta's career. (I've never seen swordfish and am following this thread in the the "thank you for doing that for me" sense.)

realhackhistory,
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@jbaggs oh that too! But there are definitely a few significant parts of this movie that scream Tarantino rip off.

jbaggs,

@realhackhistory It's turtles all the way down man.

jbaggs,

@realhackhistory Port packers. (registered trademark.)

realhackhistory,
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@jbaggs data compression!

jbaggs,

@realhackhistory Stomp on those bits.

Ann_Effes,
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@realhackhistory Are you commenting movies on Mastodon while watching them ... like scene by scene?

realhackhistory,
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@Ann_Effes I was :)

Viss,
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@realhackhistory its the toshiba toughbook with a paintjob

Viss,
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@realhackhistory from a hollywood film? i havent seen ansi/ascii since antitrust

realhackhistory,
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@Viss sad!

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@realhackhistory very. its a pity more cmdline art doenst make it into computery stuff in tv and film

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@realhackhistory today we just call that "medicare" or "social security", heh

kalleboo,
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@realhackhistory Me going to the bathroom

rich,
@rich@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@realhackhistory This was the first use of GPT in a movie 😋

vger,

@realhackhistory I‘m guessing the password would be „Swordfish“?

realhackhistory,
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@vger that is possibly a spoiler, I’m guessing

jspath55,
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@realhackhistory My bet on the Finland reference is anon penet fi.

https://www.wired.com/1996/11/anon-penet-fi-rip/

I guess you had to be there.

m4ra,

@realhackhistory Maybe the script writer read about the Penet Anonymous Remailer in the news while writing the script? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penet_remailer

realhackhistory,
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@m4ra Very possible but the dominant theory seems to be because of Linus Torvalds

m4ra,

@realhackhistory That makes more sense. Also being confused for Sweden—>Pirate Bay could be the case.

jeroen,
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@realhackhistory that scene is a really great dolby speaker test btw, turn volume to 11 ;)

realhackhistory,
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@jeroen I will have to go back and try this

paninid,
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@realhackhistory that’s Tom Cruise’s brother, btw

realhackhistory,
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@paninid for real?!

paninid,
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north,
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@realhackhistory it amuses me a bit that you, who makes (excellent) hacking history videos, hasn't seen an old hacking movie.

realhackhistory,
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@north I have avoided watching this movie for 22 years! I heard terrible things about it and just pretended it didn't exist.

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