Ajen,

I remember this article… He went for a hike and didn’t tell his roommates when he would be back. He didn’t answer their calls (I’m assuming he needed some time alone), and was gone for more than 24 hours so they reported him missing. He just wanted some time away from his roommates and they put him the the national news.

UnicodeHamSic,

Because of capitlaism everything has to be ground into the finest point with the sharpest edge to make money. So the ability to talk to anyone on earth whenever you want has been reduced from a marvel scifi authors used to dream about to its current state were is an annoyance used to make your life worse whenever possible. It would be trivially easy to make like just a little bit better but that isn’t good for the gdp so people in risk of death can only assume the system is out to harm them

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

It has nothing to do with social fear, every fucking call on my personal and work phone is a scam.

Get that shit under control and then maybe I’ll answer my cell phone once in awhile lol

Though if I was really lost I think I’d be answering every call tbh.

sheogorath,

If you live in a supported country, (but only US have the automatic screening feature) I suggest getting a Pixel phone and use the call screening features.

support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9118387?hl=en

I’m currently using a Samsung phone and it has a similar feature but the screening can only be done manually and Bixby’s voice is miles behind Google Assistant’s.

rusticus,

This has the making of a hilarious movie. Trying to convince the car warranty guy to save your ass from wild animals.

2Password2Remember,

if you want me to actually respond to you, leave a message. doesn’t everybody know this at this point?

Death to America

Spliffman1,

Simple solution : Always have the local search and rescue team in your contacts… Duuuh??

sim642,

A lot of places call customers from some completely random numbers, not the official one. Very annoying.

Spliffman1,

I was joking actually, like totally joking… Saying the hiker or anyone should have had local search and rescue team in his contacts so when lost caller ID would identify them so he would answer and not ignore the call because of unknown number… Was a joke… But never mind 🤦

Boi,

Yeah, the problem is i would have them in contacts listed under " rescue me!" And they’d call me from a number that’s not the one they gave me.

Spliffman1,

I would never have them in my contacts, I was just talking crap

duviobaz,
@duviobaz@lemmy.world avatar

Totally relatable

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

The telephone network is practically useless because we don’t have any authentication to it anymore.

When the phone company had to do something to physically connect a wire to a building, it was sufficient. But that I can download any number of apps that lets me war dial an entire continent pretending to be just anyone? Yeah the phone network isn’t secure enough for the average user.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

It never really was secure. You could always set the Caller ID on an outgoing PRI trunk to whatever you wanted with any of the phone systems in the last half century. It isn’t validated.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

It was when you had to ask the nice lady to connect you. That’s what happens when you remove all the infrastructure jobs.

moonsnotreal,
@moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Also phone phreaking existed. Just blow a whistle into the pay phone and get free calls.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I had a little touchtone dial pad I could put up to the mouthpiece and dial through with. It was sweet

yoz,

Wait…is it real? Lol

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Yeah, but it was a couple of years ago

Evilphd666,
@Evilphd666@hexbear.net avatar

Has signal.

Doesn’t open map app.

ArtisinalBS,

In what imaginary world you’re living that you have data in the middle of nowhere?

where_am_i,

ever been to Alps?

quarrk,
@quarrk@hexbear.net avatar

You should have GPS without any service at all. You might need data for the map to load, depends on the app. If you’re lucky and the app automatically cached it when you had signal, or you manually downloaded the offline map, then you could navigate home in airplane mode.

All of this is moot because I think I remember reading the rest of this story. The hiker wasn’t really lost, they simply went on a hike without telling anyone, and ignored calls during that time because they were trying to unplug.

ox0r,

If it’s important, they’ll leave a message. Otherwise it’s just another scam anyway

RaivoKulli,

Hopefully you’re not applying for a job haha

alp,

Jokes on them I’m too lazy to set up my voice-mail

quarrk,
@quarrk@hexbear.net avatar

“Hey, sorry to bother you, was just wondering if you were dead. Please call back at your earliest convenience.”

ox0r,

Yeah right, as if I’m dumb enough to fall for that one!

LostDeer,

This could be me lol

It is funny to be lost where you have cell service though.

brianorca,

Or lost when your phone has GPS even without cell service.

SpaceNoodle,

Did they not leave a fucking voicemail?

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

That’s even worse than a call

SpaceNoodle,

How is it worse? If there’s important information, leave it for me.

Ilovethebomb,

I don’t mind phone calls, but I fucking hate voicemail. I hate leaving them, and I hate retrieving them.

RaivoKulli,

I’m not going to listen to your goddamn voicemail, who the hell even uses that anymore. Send a text if you want to leave info or call me later when I’m around to pick up

SpaceNoodle,

Businesses can’t always text, ya dingus.

RaivoKulli,

I’ll answer when it’s a job offer, otherwise don’t bother with the voice mail

explodicle,

I just let the mailbox fill up so people would stop leaving those.

Meowoem,

Ah the good old days when it cost 50p to check your voicemail

baronvonj,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

So … if he could receive a call … couldn’t he make a call to someone he knows?

blaine,

He was probably afraid to call for help due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge. Might have wanted to wait another day or two to be sure he was really lost before calling for help.

pedro,

USA: die or get crippled by debt for getting saved

books,

In all fairness. The USA has some fucking gnarly terrain and is sparsely populated.

Sending out a chopper team to get you off a cliff face isn’t cheap and is completely self inflicted, so I kinda get why they charge you for that.

Getting cancer on the other hand, shouldn’t bankrupt you.

hayander,

Still not going to cost you in Australia, one of most sparsely populated countries on the planet.

Getawombatupya,

If it’s an ambulance chopper, it will. Police and fire are socialised

SuddenDownpour,

due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge

Is this a joke or is this actually a thing in the US?

Franzia,

Hahahaha no really the US is just a nightmare in ways you havent even thought of, yet.

notacat,

It’s a U.S. thing! Yay! You can buy insurance for it if you do a lot of backpacking but that’s rare. I believe it’s in the five figures for a rescue. But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

Klear,

But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

MIB?

Guntrigger,

Unfortunately they only come if you need to be rescued from aliens.

punkwalrus,
@punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

A childhood friend of mine had to sign a waiver in New Zealand because her and her team were climbing down some canyon notoriously hard to get to except by rescue helicopter. She got stuck, and the rest of the team went to go get help. She paid $58,000 in 1990s money for the rescue. So it’s not just the US.

baltakatei, (edited )

It depends on the state and payment is more likely required if local officials deem you negligent or if youʼre a part of a common pattern in that location (e.g. Floridians visiting southern Utah every winter and getting themselves stuck in cliffs).

States with laws allowing search and rescuers to charge for rescuing them, according to this 2021-10-06 New York Times article titled “You Got Lost and Had to Be Rescued. Should You Pay?”:

  • Hawaii
  • Idaho
  • Maine
  • New Hampshire
  • Oregon
  • South Dakota
  • Vermont

God help you if your rescuers call you an air ambulance, though.

MystikIncarnate,

I remember reading about this. He was actually lost, in that he strayed from his trail and didn’t immediately know how to return.

Rescuers were alerted because a family member had reported him missing after he didn’t arrive home on time.

As the story goes, to the best of my recollection, the “lost” individual went for a hike and said they would be back before sundown. When they got lost, they obviously missed that deadline. They were biding their time in the forest until daybreak to try to find the trail to get back because it was too dark to look for it. So while he was “lost” it was mainly because the sun had gone down. He didn’t feel like he was in any danger, and wasn’t at any risk of immediately being harmed or killed; AFAIK they were reasonably familiar with that forest and they were more than capable of surviving in those conditions; so he had no motivation to seek help.

TL;DR: guy didn’t feel like he needed help.

_CottonCandyUnicorn_,

I get that he didn’t feel like he needed help. But he told his family he’d be back before sundown so wouldn’t the thought to call or even text your family to let them know you’re ok cross your mind? That’s the part that seems strange to me.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that part is a bit inconsiderate.

lud,

Maybe they forgot ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Been there for sure

Just forgetting to tell family I was going to be later than I expected

newIdentity,

Happens on a weekly basis for me

cactusupyourbutt,

whats strange to me is that the family didnt try to reach him first

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

Or why didn’t the rescuers text or leave a message?

Sounds like everyone has trouble communicating properly here. It’s like how to write a sitcom plot 101.

Rehwyn,

Article about it: nbcnews.com/…/hiker-lost-24-hours-ignored-rescuer…

What’s more likely is that in his panic he wasn’t thinking quite straight. It’s very common for people to make decisions that seem silly in retrospect in situations like this.

PaupersSerenade,
@PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works avatar

Something similar, if less life threatening, happened to me. My car had been stollen a while back and I avoided the random call from an area code 50+ miles away. Turns out it had been the cops from that area telling my they found my (stripped) vehicle. Impound lot ended up getting the car AND overnight parking fees. Absolute racket.

Surreal,

I wish people texted after failing to call me. I don’t answer calls from unknown numbers either but if you know me then text me so I know it’s not a spam number

mkwarman,

I agree, but I still have this idea that it’s rude to text people unless you have gotten permission first. I think it’s a relic from the 2000s-2010s when not everyone’s phone had texting and if you did text them they could get charged by their phone provider. Obviously nowadays that’s much less of a concern, but still feels like a social grey area for some reason

die444die,

It is completely opposite to that in my circles. It would be weird to call people without texting them first. In fact, one of my best friends texted me to ask if he could call me.

mkwarman,

That definitely makes sense too, particularly when making new friends in my age group. I guess it’s just when contacting people for business vs social communications? I’m not sure

danielton,

Yeah, that’s an archaic mindset. Most people would rather get a text these days.

NateSwift,

That’s so funny. I feel like it’s rude to call without texting first

RaivoKulli,

Lmao both of these sound ridiculous to me

Rentlar,
jlow,

Yeah, but then you’d get a text from that unknown number asking you to call them back without saying who they are, either 👌 Source: I know people.

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