Ranvier,

Why do all of his speeches sound like they were pulled straight from the nazis?

"Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist. "

Oh yeah, that’s why. Thanks vanity fair.

can,

Again, he’s not subtle.

Melkath,

He's literally Dwight from that episode where Jim teaches Dwight how to deliver a speech.

He isn't smart enough to know the historical paradigm of dictator's speeches himself.

I wanna know who his Jim is.

Hackerman_uwu,

Blood alone moves the wheels of history!!!

Caradoc879,

From what I’m reading Hitler was a lifelong passion for Trump. Sure he might not have read it recently, but at one point, even if it’s was 20 years ago, he wasn’t mentally deranged. If he actually did read them “from time to time” over the years, that’s easily a dozen. And usually people remember things better if they find it interesting, so even someone with memory issues would be able to paraphrase and recite something they’ve heard a dozen times, especially if that was their passion.

afraid_of_zombies,

No way he is reading.

and,

“Let me tell you folks, I read. Big words, small words, I read all kinds of words. Hell, I’ve read thousands of words just this morning. They call me the greatest reader of all time, folks. Some of the toughest books, magazines, I read them all. Not like that fool Ron DeSatanist, I bet he hasn’t read a single book in his life. Sleepy Joe? Probably forgot how to read just like he forgot how to be president. But me, I read more than anyone in the world. I am, what some folks call, a “reader”. And that’s why, folks, you can trust me, you can donate to me, because I’m a very smart guy, because I read, you know, smart people, they read. It’s just what I do, I read. Now if you excuse me folks, I’ve gotta go start reading.”

UristMcHolland,

The sad part is I can’t even tell if that’s a real quote or not at a glance.

frokie,

And 100% pass on Turing test if it’s AI generated.

Hadriscus,

amazing

martinb,

Downvoted for realism

sailingbythelee,

I was thinking exactly the same thing and then I saw your comment. I bet even Trump can’t believe how far he has gotten basically saying the same type of crazy shit Hitler used to say. Trump is really calling to the baser instincts of a disturbingly large group of people.

It is incredibly dangerous, and so bizarre to witness it happening again, not as a historical narrative, but in real time.

LetterboxPancake,

There’s a reason Germany banned shit like this. It worked then, it works now and it’ll work in the future.

sailingbythelee,

True.

youCanCallMeDragon,
@youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world avatar

I mean he did all but use the phrase “blood and soil.” No surprise he’s copying off shitler’s notes.

Twelve20two,

What did those folks say back at the Unite The Right rally? The one that Trump said had good people on both sides at?

BruceTwarzen,

His speeches sound like nazi fanfiction because he's trying to get elected by americans

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

Political candidate tells nation of immigrants that immigrants are BAD. Film at 11.

Kbobabob,

Political candidate that is married to an immigrant tells nation of immigrants that immigrants are BAD. Film at 11.

ApeNo1,

“ Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s. None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. “

You know, he may have a point.

TheJims,

Two of his three wives are immigrants. His in-laws benefited from chain migration. His third son is an anchor baby. None of his supporters are capable of recognizing these facts.

desconectado,

Ha, jokes on you for thinking him and his followers think white immigrants are “immigrants”. They use that word because it’s the only acceptable one, but it’s clearly not what they are referring to.

skeezix,

Trump is the son and the heir of a dynasty that is criminally vulgar. He’s the son and heir of nothing in particular.

spider,

Trump is poisoning the brains of our country.

Custoslibera,

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Immigrants built America. No one works harder to make a country better than the people who know how much worse it can be.

KonalaKoala,
@KonalaKoala@lemmy.world avatar

That may sound better if it got turned around to "Rally immigrants tell Trump is ‘poisoning the blood of our country’

tswerts,

Watching it all from Belgium, it seems that the contested speech of Trump is purposefully aimed at:

  • making the previous wrong remark yesterday’s news;
  • flooding the news/people with controversial remarks so it’s impossible to ‘keep count’;
  • raising the bar of what shocks Trump-supporters and -opponents.
Custoslibera,

What was yesterdays remark?

tswerts,

Exactly 🙂

ArianaGrande,

Fuck, it’s a good strategy

EtherWhack,
@EtherWhack@lemmy.world avatar

OK Drumpf… Whatever you say…

Aceticon,

Now there goes a man who really hates his own grandfather…

neige,

Immigration from shit third world countries is so bad worldwide, people can’t deny it anymore. No one in this thread seems to deny what he’s saying, he’s right.

pottedmeat7910,

Take that shit back to Twitter, dude.

neige, (edited )

Sweetheart. You can’t deny the truth. They call me names but never a liar.

DevilOfDoom,

😂

AlijahTheMediocre,

You’re a liar, there I said it.

All honesty though, yeah its a problem but the solution is not to burn bridges and build ever higher walls. They’re leaving for a reason and ignoring the problem doesnt solve it.

Its convenient how all you seem to forget your families once came from a “shit third world country”, they left Europe for a reason.

neige,

Saying words without understanding them doesn’t make what you say true sweetheart

ChimpanzeeThat,

You know who’s not ‘pouring into America’? People with options.

Unless you’re fleeing the third world, I can’t imagine why America would even be on your radar. He’s obsessing over the wrong problem.

lingh0e,

That’s such a great way to put it.

neige,

The majority of the world is from the third world. And that’s exactly who is trying to migrate to the US and Europe

phoenixz,

It’s all a diversion to avoid people thinking about actual problems

IndoorParking,

So my aunt and her kids fled the war in Ukraine and is living in the French part of Canada. At the time she applied for the US too, and they recently answered so she decided to go to Detroit instead of staying in Canada.

I’m in Canada and I’m like whyyy???

But apparently “it’s easier for her kid to become a firefighter there, school and medical care is covered for new immigrants, and she can take classes for herself for cheap too, they don’t have to learn French and the immigration is less strict”.

Honestly, in part I understand it’s not perfect here, but I highly doubt it’s better there, both situations suck until they get better. I’m just afraid they’re blinded by the “grass is greener on the other side” bs. Because no way is education and medical care is cheap there after a certain amount of time.

Romko,
@Romko@lemmy.world avatar

She should have moved to any one of the other provinces to meet her requirements.

IndoorParking,

Sadly she doesn’t have family there. Only in the French part and Detroit. And she chose Detroit over us 🫠

snf,

she chose Detroit over us

Montreal here. Gotta admit, that stings.

danikpapas,

Please Donald Trump, save us 🙏

AlijahTheMediocre,

Foolish of you to think he actually cares about you

danikpapas,

I guess you guys haven’t seen the meme where the guy sits in his car and repeats: “donald trump please save us” over and over like a lunatic praying to trump as if he was a god

52fighters,

Clearly a jab at big pharma mongol Vivek Ramaswamy.

DeepGradientAscent,
@DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev avatar

big pharma mongol

Maybe you meant to say “mogul”?

filefly,

nah I think they had it right

DeepGradientAscent,
@DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev avatar

But the guy is Indian, not Mongolian.

yesman,

When whatever conflagration that MAGA causes is over, those who survive will have a duty to record what Trump and his supporters were. No Milgrahm experiments to explain why people reflexively obey authority. No excuses about how Trump was so charismatic and could sway and persuade.

Nobody is being tricked or persuaded. Trump is paradoxically the most transparent politician in American history. He’s no great persuader. Listening to him speak is like watching a drunk man cross an icy street. The truth is LOTS of Americans fucking love fascism! They want people to be harmed and killed. They’ll suffer hardships, and take losses to make it happen. They raise Trump on their shoulders because he tells them what they want to hear. And they’ll happily hoist someone else up should Trump stumble.

Remember the Dominion lawsuit against Fox reviled that the network presenters were cowed and intimated by the viewership. All these years people like Jon Stewart told us that Fox news radicalized Memaw and Poppop. Maybe all along it was the deplorables that radicalized Fox.

At some point, people will be standing in the rubble of American cities asking “how could this happen”? Tell them Americans wanted it; Americans voted for it; and Americans gleefully held hands and jumped into the abyss.

sploosh,

Bruh you cannot apologize for Fox. Their on-air people lie to anyone who will listen every God damn day, why would they stop lying just because they’re under oath?

derf82,

People want to believe that deep down, most people are good. I believe this to be a lie people tell themselves. No, most people are awful and would fuck over anyone they don’t know if they do much as think it will make them better off.

Xanis,

People are good, until they aren’t. That’s the trick: Creating environments where people become more awful, more quickly. Like upgrading your barracks in a RTS game.

Demuniac,

We’re all still animals following basic instinct. When we feel that our “herd” is threatened, we get ugly fast.

It’s really easy to play on those feelings.

DuckOverload,

I think it depends on context. If you’re brought up in a wholesome environment with respect and positive values, you’ll realize that living like that is better. If you’re brought up in a cesspool of fear and violence, you’ll think that’s the way the world is, and you’ll behave accordingly.

It’s not that America is inherently bad, or any particular cultural system. It’s that when a society doesn’t maintain its values and spiritual core, it will rot from the inside out.

The problem is our society has sold out so much of our community, our education, our values for convenience and corporate greed. This is like what the Right used to blather on about, but they’re to blame for most of the real depravity. In any case, we’re just seeing the fallout.

yesman,

I think you’ve got it twisted. People do awful stuff because they think it’s good. The Nazis thought Jewish extermination was helping. Theirs a Documentary on Netflix about German soldiers tasked with shooting Jews. For most of them it was a horrible ordeal. One of the biggest motivators for continuing was the thought that shirking one’s “duty” meant your comrade was going to have to do it for you. (one of the rationale for the concentration camps was to spare the death squads from PTSD)

I mentioned the Milgram experiment. If you take psy101 they’re going to tell you that that experiment proved that humans will harm each other for the sake of an authority figure. But that’s not true. Repetitions of that experiment that replaced the lab-coat guy with one wearing a military or police uniform and you went from the vast majority willing to harm people to the vast majority refusing. People weren’t obeying authority, they were volunteers who wanted to help science. They thought continuing a harmful experiment was their duty.

You’ve probably heard that quote from Fred Rogers about how when something tragic happens, “look for the helpers”. Well, it turns out that many of the people who cause tragedy think they’re helping.

SwampYankee,

Yes, Trump supporters honestly believe that the vast majority of undocumented migrants are criminals and terrorists. They honestly believe that the Democrats are trying to create a Soviet style dictatorship. They honestly believe we need a strongman to rid the country of people who are genuinely trying to destroy it. I know a bunch of them; they think they’re helping.

kent_eh,

That’s the kind of uneducated opinions that Trump proclaimed his love for.

skeezix,

asking “how could this happen”?

That they won’t do. They’ll simply blame democrats and liberals.

iMastari,

Wasn’t his father an immigrant?

TechyDad,
@TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

No. Fred Trump was born in NYC. Trump’s grandfather, though, was an immigrant.

ThePowerOfGeek,

His mother definitely was. She was from Scotland.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Nah, she was an expat.

/s

GoosLife, (edited )

Just like Trump himself, who is one of the leading expats on multiple subjects such as business and politics!

saruwatarikooji,

Seems like your joke didn’t quite land… But I liked it

GoosLife,

Haha thanks, that makes it all worth it

MisterLister,

no no no white people can’t be “immigrants”

spoiler/s just in case

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