isles,

This may be No Stupid Questions, but there sure are a lot of stupid answers.

CaptainBlagbird,
@CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world avatar

Year 349 since the return of Late Jesus.

It’s about 500 years in the future I think

solomon42069,

Live Journal user id 349

In order to determine the best before you’ll need to solve the emo’s riddle.

harrys_balzac,

Would LJ be the year code and 349 the Julian date?

JackbyDev,

Ooh maybe?

harrys_balzac,

Where I work, we use a date like that. The only difference is the letters are at the end.

zakobjoa,
@zakobjoa@lemmy.world avatar

It refers to the year of our Lord J-town 349.

skeezix,

349th day of Lindon B Johnson’s term.

MrsDoyle,

Some uk supermarkets have started dropping the use by date in favour of codes like this. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45786012 The article says it’s to reduce waste and that staff will have special training to know when to bin stuff. I imagine the training is in how to read the codes.

trolololol,

What duck heads

Should I call customer support every time I’m about to cook dinner?

Cethin,

I assume the point is the “best before” dates are mostly useless. They’re useful for the store, but for a customer usually you should tell by smelling and looking at it. We evolved with senses to tell us when food has gone bad. Those dates aren’t part of it. So much food is wasted because people think those are magic and should be obayed like a law.

T00l_shed,

On the flip side, knowing the rough best before date helps people buy the freshest stuff, since I can’t open the cream with a date that says jr402 I won’t know if it should be good for a week or a month.

Cethin,

That’s the point. People will choose to buy the “freshest” stuff, meaning it created a lot of waste. If you can’t tell what freshest then it will prevent older stuff from needing to be thrown out. If it’s being sold at the store, it’s fine.

theoldgreymare,

That’s fine unless you are buying well in advance and need to know it will still be good by the event. It will also prevent a customer like myself from noticing an item still on the shelf is a week past the sell-by date and should have been removed. Sealed cartons and other packaging prevents us from actually seeing the food, so someone could get home and open it and find it spoilt, wasting their money. “If it’s being sold at the store, it’s fine” is a mighty optimistic view of commerce. Even at a very well -run store I’ve found several packages of sliced Jarlsberg with mold inside, well before the date. And I received one with worse mold from a different grocery delivery. That’s a Jarlsberg problem. I check them carefully, the delivery shopper didn’t. He assumed if it was being sold in the store it was fine.

Naich,

That’s great unless you have an impaired sense of smell, like I had for the last 2 weeks following a COVID infection, or other people have permanently.

TwanHE,

Fresh produce has it here in there Netherlands as well. Or our supermarket has for the last few years, a letter specifies the day of the week (Monday = A) and then the week number.

Week number we printed on the sticker machines and stuck on the start of every isle just to make it easier.

MrsDoyle,

Genius!

Aux,

“Best Before” doesn’t mean anything. Only “Use By” is an indicator of expired food.

Krauerking,

Did you know you can store smoked salmon at room temp pretty much indefinitely in an unopened package?

Food storage has gotten really good, all the tricks of smoke, sugar or salt of our ancestors with now radiation sterilization and other cool tricks with science.
All that to say. It’s probably fine. You just bought it and I’m sure this was made to last as long as it can as reliably as it can so that they don’t lose money.

Most best buy dates are just made up anyways and not based on much. Check for gas build up, a weird odor, extreme discoloration, or foreign objects or growths. That will get you through pretty much every rotten food type without having to taste it.

That’s said, where are you shopping that has a mixture of Japanese, Chinese, French, and robot codes?

Daxtron2,

Asian grocery in Quebec maybe?

Krauerking,

Oh shit, English and French required, arbitrary expiration date because it’s not required.

You should be a detective I bet you nailed it in one.

Daxtron2,

Haha just my guess, could totally be wrong!

swag_money,

J3 is the 3rd month that starts with J so it’s July. 49 is the 49th day of July so August 18th. easy peasy

Silentiea,

L stands for leap year, so that tracks.

n3m37h,

This is the most sound flogic I have ever witness, I shall now bow down to the Grand Nagus of flogic as I am not worthy to stand with thee

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I think this means it expires 349 months after the presidency of Lyndon B. Johnson.

mechoman444,

This makes the most sense.

credo,

This site says to use it in 1-2 months: rivieraseafoodclub.com/…/unagi-freshwater-eel

As many have said, the numerical digits probably refer to a Julian calendar date. Also to consider, some products list the pack date rather than the expiration date. So it’s possible these were packed in December and are already “expired”.

Etterra,

I’m no expert but I think that’s the planet from Alien and Aliens.

zik,

Close… That moon’s called LV426

3volver,

That looks like a failure to regulate and standardize expiration date format which ultimately benefits corporations and fucks the consumer.

Usernamealreadyinuse,

OP! Can you please let us know:

  1. If you found more clues?
  2. Decided to eat it? And if so, how you are doing!?!

Thanks!!

RvTV95XBeo,

I mean, it’s frozen, so the best before date is pretty loose at best anyways

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

I bought it today and I’m not planning to eat it for a few days. I can only hope/assume it’s still good.

FiniteBanjo,

Companies are allowed to do this in some nations as long as they also distribute the cipher to grocers. For example, literally every chewing tobacco I’ve seen. This leads to higher sales because lazy employees don’t take the time to check the printout and remove expired product.

NeatNit,

I have no reason to doubt what you’re saying, but I really have to say this is the dumbest bullshit I’ve ever heard. The whole idea of putting expiration dates on products (and nutritional info for that matter) is for consumers to be able to interpret this stuff. Not manufacturers and not store managers. Consumers. There’s no excuse for allowing this.

AngryCommieKender,

Well, that would be the reason if they were legally required to do so, but Baby Food is the only product in the US legally required to have an expiration date.

So, all the other food manufacturers voluntarily put expiration dates on, and they want you to buy more food, so the date on most packages is functionally meaningless

LemoineFairclough,

I don’t know about today, but in the past New Jersey required that “expiration dates” be stamped on bottled water: nj1015.com/does-bottled-water-expire-nj-was-the-o…

Even if similar markings are not required by law everywhere in the USA, food manufacturers are probably afraid of getting sued due to violating local laws, or even international laws if the food is transported across borders, so it’s probably negligent to neglect printing them.

Nibodhika,

No, best before is for the market, it was never intended for customers, that’s not the date the food goes bad, it’s the date it starts to be different from their best, e.g. a bread might become harder than intended, so it’s meant to have the store sell it on pristine condition. Use by date is the one that is for customers.

Cethin,

Like the other comment here says, no it wasn’t. It’s useful for the store to guarantee it’s good, but customers should be ignoring them as using the senses we evolved to use to detect bad food. A store can’t rely on this, partially for liability, partially for speed and consistency, but also largely because they can’t open the packaging to smell it or look at it better.

NeatNit,

If I as a buyer can’t tell the difference between fresh and expired food before I buy it, then what’s the store’s incentive to not sell me something a few days or weeks after its sell-by date? Even if they want to, they can’t keep track of every product on the shelves (I’ve encountered items past their date on shelves a number of times, sometimes significantly so) and they certainly don’t check each item’s date at checkout. If customers can’t do the check as they shop, there’s no way to protect against it. And just kick the shop, customers can’t open the packaging before they buy.

I do realise based on your comment and others that I may have been wrong (probably country dependent), printed dates might be intended more for stock keepers than for consumers, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to hide this information from buyers.

deur,

I’d imagine the fact that is not legal and is negligent would stop them.

FiniteBanjo,

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/f4211036-cf71-4521-b6f2-e119e87e6e29.png

No arguments that it’s shifty and dumb, but it’s better if the store can be held liable for selling bad product. That said, almost anything with “best by” as opposed to “expired by” is still safe to eat for probably decades.

Evotech,

Wow that’s stupid as fuck

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Former grocery manager here. There are companies that purposely sell these weird cryptic date formats. I would always need to go look for their certain code to figure out what it translates to. I can’t remember why either other than it’s not normal and we just dealt with it.

Syn_Attck,

Because of the other writing on the package, I’m wondering if because its sold on the international market and dates would get very confusing and possibly harmful.

DragonTypeWyvern,

More harmful than a literal code?

Syn_Attck,

If you buy fresh tuna and the country of origin date code is MM/DD/YY while you’re DD/MM/YY or YY/DD/MM or YY/MM/DD you could end up with year-old fish or worse. So yeah.

And no, it won’t always be something easily detectable by look and smell like fish.

KevonLooney,

You can easily write out the month: April 1, 2024. And don’t say “people might not speak English” or Chinese or whatever. You know what language to put it in because the rest of the package has writing on it too.

Willy,

plenty of packaging sold in the us is not in English if your at the hmart or wherever. they just slap an English ingredients sticker on it.

7uWqKj,

That’s why there’s an ISO standard for dates and it goes YYYY-MM-DD

Cethin,

That’s not even mentioning potential other calendars.

Fredselfish,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

They do that with glues at my job. The code supposed to be used for quality control. Like first letter plant it was manufactured in and the second the month and so on. I think it dumb. Never seen it on food before.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Best sniffed before?

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