DeSantis says he would eliminate four federal agencies if elected president

Florida's Republican governor said he would seek to abolish the departments of Education, Commerce and Energy, as well as the IRS.

"If Congress will work with me on doing that, we'll be able to reduce the size and scope of government," he added. "If Congress won't go that far, I'm going to use those agencies to push back against woke ideology and against the leftism that we see creeping into all institutions of American life."

jerome,
jerome avatar

DeSantis is telling everyone that he's going to destroy the United States, and you're all just sitting there.

Briguy24,

He's polling a distant 2nd to trump believe it or not. Twice impeached, twice indicted traitorous trump is polling highest among R in their primary.

Bucket_of_Truth,

He's polling worse than fucking RFK jr, he stands no chance. YoUr'Re AlL JuSt SiTtInG tHeRe! We're more than a year away from the general election, which he will never make it to because there are months of primaries before where Trump will assuredly win.

TWeaK,

Most likely, but which of the two will still be ready for it in 2028?

sendingmath,
sendingmath avatar

we are not just sitting here, we're posting it to kbin!

borkcorkedforks,

Relax, we're doing a sit in.

solidgrue,
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

I'm not gonna vote for him. He's not even a candidate yet. What should I be doing?

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

Laughing at Desantis’ ignorance or crying because republican voters are just as ignorant and eat that shit up.

Or my favorite… alternating between the two

BurnTheRight,

Training and prepping. Historically, there's only been one way to stop fascist conservatism, and it's not something we are allowed to talk openly about until we're doing it.

skogens_ro,

Did the 6th of January insurrectionists do the right thing, given they believed they were fighting against an authoritarian government? Or should they have accepted the result of the democratic process even though they disagreed with it?

Luke-Byrne297,

So when Hitler got voted in, the moral choice was to respect the democratic process and the completely legal murder of 12 million people. Got it

skogens_ro,

I agree in the event of a genocidal government, you throw them out, but obviously there needs to be a very high bar and a lot of safeguards to prevent partisan misuse. A losing Republican could claim a winning Democrat wants to conduct a genocide against unborn babies or something and the Jan6 insurrectionists would feel they were justified because of it.

What are the most damning pieces of evidence that Desantis will conduct a genocide if elected?

Should the 2016 election result have been overturned?

sectorfour,
sectorfour avatar

Oh no. Is this the audience here?

EtherealMongrel,

Sorry if you wanted a fascist safe space, maybe try twitter,

sectorfour,
sectorfour avatar

lol

3425asdfqwer4,

Making sure that all of the subhuman republicans around you are as uncomfortable as humanly possible. They live among us and far too many people tolerate them.

bobs_monkey,

Not much can be done as of yet. The election season will really kick off in January, and short of hiring a hit squad, marching around with signs and getting screamed at/assaulted by rednecks doesn't really seem too effective. What would you propose?

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

Do the Florida sewer and septic sucking service workers have a union? Might be able to convince them to use their, ah “waste” from yet another school’s clogged septic tanks to, uh “fertilize” desantis’ yard.

Cinner,

I love comments like this for the blatant lack of self-awareness that you're doing exactly what everyone else is.

While somehow finding a way to feel like you're better than.

st3ph3n,
st3ph3n avatar

Fuck this fascist turd.

hiyaaaaa23,

Im too tired to give a witty comeback.

DeSantis is a fascist bitch

assclapcalamity,

same. boring af. heard about some weird business. anti books is what i heard. Sorry, i am pro books.

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

I’m definitely pro library. Public libraries are awesome.

Ours has a living- seed bank of heirloom veggies, 3d printers, they do community events- including a Mongolian acrobatic circus (Friday-),sewing/quilting stuff. Oh and they have a lot of books … and that’s just off the top of my head.

solidgrue,
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

Wow. Commerce runs the weather satellites and Energy oversee nukes. Good luck with that.

iLikeGoats,
iLikeGoats avatar

Not to mention Commerce regulates international trade and enforces sanctions. Most Federal agencies do far more than most people realize.

herzberd,
herzberd avatar

reminds me of reagan wanting to give DoE the axe until he figured out they have the nukes lol

HotDogFingies,
HotDogFingies avatar

I hate that man

PhoenixRising,

Rick Perry too. Then Trump made him the secretary of energy, lol.

Midnitte,
Midnitte avatar

I wonder if you asked him which departments oversee that if he wouldn't be able to answer, akin to Rick Perry forgetting what departments he would get rid of...

demvoter,
demvoter avatar

This guy is flailing, lmao.

Madison_rogue,
Madison_rogue avatar

OMFG what a fucking bozo. So what he's proposing (among other very dumb things...literally) is an energy infrastructure like Texas. That'll go over real well.

13zero,

It’s worse than that. The DoE’s main job is overseeing nuclear materials (not just nuclear power plants, but the entire nuclear weapon stockpile).

Talaraine,
Talaraine avatar

Texas would try to convince the average resident that 95 degrees in your house IS room temperature if they could get away with it.

goryramsy,

"But if my room is that temperature, therefore that temperature is room temperature!"

edit: fixed markup

Cinner,

Funny enough I thought that's what room temperature was until I looked it up just now.

Colloquially, room temperature is a range of air temperatures that most people prefer for indoor settings. It feels comfortable to a person when they are wearing typical indoor clothing. Human comfort can extend beyond this range depending on humidity, air circulation and other factors. Food or beverages may be served at room temperature, meaning neither heated nor cooled.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

"If Congress won't go that far, I'm going to use those agencies to push back against woke ideology and against the leftism that we see creeping into all institutions of American life."

He keep saying shit like this and just once I would like him to explain HOW. WHAT POLICY? What, Ron, will you do that will "push back against leftism"? Tell me what you plan to enact.

Invalid,

It's a threat. He is saying if congress does not get rid of federal agencies he is going to use Executive Orders to try to force policy he knows will piss people off. I don't think the policy really matters at this point.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

It does though. Policy should be the only thing that matters. We need to force our politicians to talk about their actual plans, the actions they will actually take, the policies they will enforce.

Invalid,

Let me rephrase. He is saying "Get rid of these agencies or I'm going to fuck you with all of the power they give me."

My point is that the details of how he fucks you is not as important as the fact that he is going to.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

We fundamentally disagree my friend. I know what you're saying and I disagree. The how is important. I want him, and all politicians, to be pressed on telling Americans how they're going to do these things. Tell Americans in no uncertain terms how their policies will impact them.

Invalid,

I want him, and all politicians, to be pressed on telling Americans how they're going to do these things. Tell Americans in no uncertain terms how their policies will impact them.

I 100% agree with you there.

I'm just concerned about getting distracted by the "or else" part of his statement when his real intention is getting rid of the agencies.

wagesj45,
wagesj45 avatar

HOW. WHAT POLICY? What, Ron, will you do that will "push back against leftism"?

Being mean to trans and gay people. That's the policy.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

But that's my point. I want him to say that. I want him to explain his actual policy in uncoded terms.

mrbubblesort,
mrbubblesort avatar

"Throw dem gays into the nuklear reactor"

Ron DeSantis probably

exohuman,
exohuman avatar

Don’t forget black people. He was busy scrubbing away black history in Florida.

pizza_rolls,
pizza_rolls avatar

The government having money to operate is A WOKE LIBERAL AGENDA!!!

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Infrastructure spending? THAT’S A REAL LIBRUL IDEA YOU HAVE THERE. THEM BRIDGES SHOULD PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THE BOOTSTRAPS AND PAY FOR THEIR OWN REPAIRS.

Liontigerwings,

Irs. Married filing jointly is only available for male female couples.

Education is an easy one because we already saw what he wants to do with floridas system. Basically erase history and ban books.

ZILtoid1991,
ZILtoid1991 avatar

I have a guess he also wants to copy Hungary's education system, which is not only barely functioning due to a total lack of replenishment of retired teachers, but also horribly whitewash Hungarian history.

Think the "states rights" thing was bad? Get ready to the "we never did X, yet we got punished for it" method of teaching history.

billiam0202,

If Republicans cared about policy, Hillary Clinton would have won 2016 in a landslide.

This is just the same shit Trump pulled. Scream about culture war "issues" and claim you're going to solve societal ills without detailing how. Promising you're going to fix people's problems by blaming the bureaucracy or minority communities is easy, coming up with solutions that actually work is hard (and boring to boot).

Simplyvelo,

Do I wish for a sane republicans or not. Doesn’t matter because one doesn’t seem to exist.

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

Never thought I’d miss McCain. At least he paid attention to reasoned arguments and tried a few himself.

mrbubblesort,
mrbubblesort avatar

Sane Republican is an oxymoron

DarkGamer,
DarkGamer avatar

He wants to make America into Gilead, waiting for him to announce he intends to create the department of Christianity.

Asked how he would replace the existing tax structure, DeSantis said he has “supported all of the single-rate proposals," referring to a flat tax.

A flat tax, a.k.a. taxing the people who can least afford it rather than the people who can most easily afford it. Cartoon villain shit.

Craynak_Zero,

You say "Department of Christianity" like it's a bad thing. Guess those public schools that you're so adamant to defend utterly failed you. This country was founded BY non-catholic Christians, FOR non-catholic Christians. The rest of you have just been tolerated for the longest time; which has turned out to be the biggest mistake this country has ever committed.

To be 100% clear, if I had the chance to jump into an alternate timeline where the United States stayed a Christian Theocratic Republic, I would. You Demonrats are the most unsufferable collection of Savages in the entire multiverse. And one day, the last of you will finally die and this country can become great again.

SaltySalamander,

Extremely weak ragebait attempt.

Craynak_Zero,

I don't troll. I was 100% serious about that post. And if it pisses off any of you subhuman leftists, too bad. This isn't Reddit. I won't be censored here.

DarkGamer, (edited )
DarkGamer avatar

if I had the chance to jump into an alternate timeline where the United States stayed a Christian Theocratic Republic, I would. You Demonrats are the most unsufferable collection of Savages in the entire multiverse. And one day, the last of you will finally die and this country can become great again.

@Craynak_Zero a song for you

Why don't you take your abhorrent chistofascism somewhere it's wanted? Because it's not here. That's some projection, given that the ideology that's dying is yours. Just look at the demographic shift away from religious absurdity that's taking place in most developed countries. I look forward to seeing it in the dustbin of history with other irrational, hateful belief systems.

Craynak_Zero, (edited )

I would like to see you somehow make me go somewhere else. It's not going to happen. This isn't Reddit, and I can't be intimidated by the worthless text of a leftist subhuman.

The demographic shift is temporary, as leftists don't have kids. They only abort them.

You want to know what ideology will die off within 20 years though? Current leftist ideology, as it's nothing more then a Death Cult. Meanwhile, us on the right won't abort our kids. Instead, we'll raise our kids as good, Christian people.

The most satisfying part is you leftists don't even realize that your days are numbered. You mutilate and abort children, so your Death Cult can only reproduce by indoctrination of our people's children. And the parents of the United States are starting to fight back against the left. Meanwhile, all I have to do to get my children to be Christian is tell them the truth, all of it. They are more then smart enough to be able to tell that Christianity is the only way forward.

Edit: Really? You have to resort to call me a Nazi? That's not going to work on me. Your opinion of me is irrelevant. And more importantly, the use of a logical farcety proves that your losing the argument. A suggestion; instead of name calling, maybe you should do something useful, like learning to code or something.

SaltySalamander,

Really? You have to resort to call me a Nazi?

No one called you a Nazi, this seems to be a classic case of projection.

Craynak_Zero,

It's not projection when the person links a crappy video about punching videos.

I suggest you don't try gaslighting me or insulting my intelligence like that again.

CarnivorousCouch,

This is such lazy trolling. Try harder.

ladychelseaofthevoid,

Ron DeKlantis, not even hiding how much of a fascist fuck he is

though considering many of those agencies aid in politicians' ill-gotten wealth, that isnt going to go far

gentleman,

@kuontom During Rick Perry's short-lived presidential run, he said he wanted to eliminate 3 agencies but then forgot which ones they were. This is on the same level of stupidity

HandsHurtLoL,

I was about to comment this as well. On top of that, I believe the Dept of Energy was one of the agencies he wanted to abolish and then ... Trump appointed him Sec of Energy! Womp womp

gentleman,

@HandsHurtLoL Yes that is right. Perry was appointed to DOE, the agency he wanted to abolish. Tillerson was installed at State so that he could dismantle it, which he did. All part of the Bannon "burn it down" theory of Government

@kuontom

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

Ron DeSantis is a fascist.

Spacebar,
@Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

Congress would have to grant him Presidential Reorganization Authority to do what he's promising. The last president to be granted that was Reagan.

DeSantis is a facist fool with the personality of wet paper. He should never hold public office again.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

I mean there is an argument to burning it all down and starting over but this ain’t it lmao.

Craynak_Zero,

Came in to lurk, but it seems that so many subhuman leftists are here from reddit. Like, jesus christ, is there any politics forum were you demons haven't infiltrated and corrupted?

That said, Desantis is weak and cowardly. I would've voted for him if he had not proven that with those fake AI photos of Trump and Faucci. So, I guess he did me a favor there.

Lastly, get rid of the IRS. It's not even a real american agency.

SaltySalamander,

You should probably just keep lurking.

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

So a right wing echo chamber is what you’re looking for. Exploding Heads and Voat have got you covered for your daily feed of blind hatred, vitriol and detachment from reality. Most people do not subscribe to that way of thinking (as it’s backwards, reductive and harmful to society) and thus they are “everywhere”. Your average online user is not a conservative.

Craynak_Zero,

Several falsities with this statement here.

Starting off with the fact that the only blind hatred, vitriol, and detachment from reality that has existed in this country in the last 22 years has been solely and exclusively from the left. What worse is, for quite a while there, the so-called thought leaders of the right did nothing meaningful to stop them; and in fact consorted with leftist terrorists in congress, giving them concessions, and ignoring their duty to uphold the Constitution.

We of the right are not backwards. We believe in family, faith, hard work, objective truth, honesty, and integrity. We believe that by placing these values first and foremost in our lives, we make our own lives and those of our families better. The left believes in themselves, faithlessness, laziness, "no truth but power", deception, and self image. They, at best, only wish for everyone and everything around them to serve them like kings. They are worthless parasites. At worst, the left actively works to destroy this country. Just look at New York, LA, Chicago, Portland, and San Franscico and see nothing but homelessness, unsolved crime, rampant drug use, and defunded police. They are run by the left and will die off in the next decade the same way that Detroit did.

Saying something is reductive is meaningless, as that word has become nothing more than a leftist buzzword.

As for the right being harmful to society; newsflash there is no more society in this country because of the left. Gender has been rendered as meaningless, Religion is being openly criminalized, the Constitution is completely ignored, leftist policy has destroyed what value the dollar had, etc. There is no common united society in the states anymore. No one on the right in a right leaning honestly cares what happens to a leftist anymore. Some foreign country could invade tomorrow, and the right won't lift a finger to help if that invasion happened in New York, Illinois, or California. I know I sure as hell won't care.

The Real problem is that for 23 years, smart leftists infiltrated news organizations and slow drove people insane with fake stories. I can't explain leftist judges, because no one on the left is smart enough to understand how the law of this country works. The left is sure conniving enough to be politicians though. After all, they never do any work themselves so all they need to do is lie, extort, and blackmail whoever they need to while they just sit around.

One day soon, this will all change though. The political pendulum is going to swing so hard back to the right that it's going to break the entire cycle. Your average person is seeing the lawlessness and insanity that has completely consumed the left. And they are pissed. The Bud Light effect is proof of that. The left is living on borrowed time, and they know it. That's why they push for censorship. That's why they called everything racist. That why they mob, riot, loot, murder, and intimidate. And I can not wait for the right to completely take over. I only wished it had happened sooner.

Oh, and thank you for the suggestions. I'll be sure to visit.

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