Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced the passing of a law that could render driver’s licenses and other forms of identification from several states invalid, including Vermont.

Kill_joy, 10 months ago

Remember when COVID lockdowns happened and Republicans said it was the first step towards Democrats making interstate travel illegal?

They were just concerned their playbook was being copied.

flipht, 10 months ago

Right? And let's not forget the literal decades they've been trying to stop any federal ID.

Jaysyn, 10 months ago

It's always projection with the fascist GOP.

Madison_rogue, 10 months ago

FHP: "Papers, please..."

needmorepto, 10 months ago

These are the out-of-state license classes included in the list:

• Connecticut licenses with the disclaimer "Not For Federal Identification."
  

• Delaware licenses that say "Driving Privilege Only" and "Not Valid for Identification."
  

• Hawaii licenses that read "Limited Purpose Driver's License," "Limited Purpose Instruction Permit," "Limited Purpose Provisional Driver's License," and "Not Valid for use for official Federal purposes."
  

• Rhode Island licenses with the disclaimers "Not for Federal Identification," "Driver Privilege Card," and "Driver Privilege Permit."
  

• Vermont licenses that say "Not for REAL ID Purposes Driver’s Privilege Card," "Not for REAL ID Purposes Junior Driver’s Privilege Card," and "Not for REAL ID Purposes Learner’s Privilege Card."
  

NotTheOnlyGamer, 10 months ago

So what's happening is that drivers' licenses which clearly say they're not recognized as ID won't be recognized as an ID? I'm not seeing an issue, then.

user36481, 10 months ago

REAL ID is a federal requirement to use a driver's license as a form of ID to fly within the US without a passport. They are still legally acceptable forms of ID for all other purposes. They are legal drivers licenses. You still have to prove your identity to acquire them.

EnglishMobster, 10 months ago

You don't need an ID to drive. You need a driver's license. And these licenses now suddenly don't count in DeSantisWorld.

Driving without an ID is not a crime. Driving without a license is. I can see the distinction being lost when you disagree with the person politically though.

elscallr, 10 months ago

The bill specifically states forms of identification, not licenses to drive. I'm not sure identification would fit the definition of full faith and credit, since every state gets to decide what identification means and is required for.

Driver's licenses are a different story. Those would be respected if valid in another state.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Not saying it's right, but it's probably legal.

sarcasticsunrise, 10 months ago

So… let’s get this straight, cuz Meatball Boi Don’t Say Gay: Between Disney, migrant workers, the LGBTQ community, and now THIS??? Man, ol Ron DeSagtits doesn’t want anyone from out of state visiting Florida

Chetzemoka, 10 months ago

Lmao, meanwhile Massachusetts up here just straight giving undocumented immigrants full driver's licenses. Good luck with that one, Rhonda!

https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/new-massachusetts-drivers-license-law-takes-effect-this-weekend/4BQ2JXW7XBGDVMR5DOSD5JU7HY/

xuxebiko, 10 months ago

Is Florida trying to secede by preventing access to non-Floridans?

AdmiralSnackbar, 10 months ago

Full Faith and Credit? Never heard of that…

e_t_, 10 months ago

That sounds like a challenge to Congress' authority over interstate commerce.

Jaysyn, 10 months ago

Meatball Ron is like 0 & 12 in Federal courts. There should be a federal three strikes law on signing unconstitutional bills into law.

DougHolland, 10 months ago

It's long been a cornerstone of my political daydreams that federal charges should be filed, as a matter of course, against any lawmakers who vote for legislation later ruled unConstitutional.

@Jaysyn

@Col3814444 @e_t_

WookieMunster, 10 months ago

Should we also punish people for doing things that were not a crime when they did it but is now?

Grumps, 10 months ago

No. But in the case of signing clearly unvetted laws, they were enacting things that weren't constitutional before -- and continue to not be constitutional now.

It doesn't have to be a felony. Maybe misdemeanor misrepresentation.

jscummy, 10 months ago

As usual, it’s a problem that should be resolved by those lawmakers becoming completely unelectable. Instead GOP voters love it

Col3814444, 10 months ago

Amen

Neato, 10 months ago

It should be illegal to pass or sign a bill you know is illegal or unconstitutional. But... Then we'd have to prove Republicans actually know the constitution.

Spaceman2901, 10 months ago

“If those kids could read, they’d be very upset.”

Spaceman2901, 10 months ago

I know that it’d be a dangerous precedent, but it’d be nice if Congress could pass a single-instance law requiring the replacement of a state government that is clearly operating outside the Constitution.