Joe Biden calls trans people “fabric of our nation” in Trans Day of Visibility proclamation

In commemoration of the upcoming Transgender Day of Visibility (TDOV), President Joe Biden issued a statement praising trans people’s contributions to society and describing actions his administration has taken to counter transphobic bullying and extremism. Additionally, many members of Biden’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) also issued their own statements affirming that community health depends on supporting trans people too.

“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation,” Biden wrote in his statement. “Whether serving their communities or in the military, raising families or running businesses, they help America thrive. They deserve, and are entitled to, the same rights and freedoms as every other American, including the most fundamental freedom to be their true selves.”

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I am a lover of both words and deeds. This issue needs a lot of bad laws rolled back, but it also needs to have this kind of thing being said at every level of society.

assassin_aragorn,

Messaging and signaling are both important. We just have to be wary of when people are disingenuous. There’s value in introducing progressive legislation like how Sanders and AOC do even if it isn’t going to pass, just like there’s value here in affirming that trans people are people who matter.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Put it on the record. Make them write down what’s happening. Keep those receipts.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Just tiresome to read “Joe Biden becomes first president to wave a trans flag from the stairs of Air Force One” and then turn the page and read “Florida legislature passes the ‘Install Land Mines In Women’s Restrooms Act’ and funds it to the tune of $40M”

assassin_aragorn,

Absolutely, but that’s not something the president has powers over. We need Congress to pass a law that allows the federal government to crack down hard on states doing this. And we need a Congress to bitch slap the Supreme Court back into actually following the Constitution and not being a right wing mouthpiece.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

It’s more than tiresome, it’s a fucking holocaust in motion. I’m just taking the Ws where I can.

S_204,

That word is being abused lately. Trans people aren’t being packed into trains and sent to gas chambers.

What’s happening to them isn’t ok and laws need to protect their rights like everyone elses, make no mistake about it but conflating it with the Holocaust, doesn’t help the victims make progress. We need to use accurate language to combat the inflammatory language being used by the bigots trying to limit Trans rights IMO.

A_Random_Idiot,

That word is being abused lately. Trans people aren’t being packed into trains and sent to gas chambers.

Just cause we’re not there yet doesnt mean we’re not heading there

Cryophilia,

So it’s not in action. It’s just attempted. Or being planned for.

S_204,

You’re not wrong but we should still use the correct language so that when we actually get somewhere nasty, the language isn’t diminished beyond the point of usefulness.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

My bad, the word I was looking for is genocide

S_204,

Ya, still losing it’s meaning with the overuse and weaponization of the word.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

What it means is “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group”. The GOP is definitely trying to create a world without trans people by any means necessary, so unless your quibble is that trans isn’t an ethnic group, I don’t see how I’m misusing that word.

TokenBoomer,

They’re not an ethnic group, and unless everyone in the United States are trans, it doesn’t apply. Persecuted, discriminated, yes. Genocide, no.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

And yet, if something so evidently man-made and contrived as nationality can constitute a grounds for the definition of genocide, then so too could we use any number of qualities more integral to the human condition to speak intelligently about genocide. It beggars the imagination to suppose we can gain anything by fretfully splitting hairs when we have a word to hand which quite precisely encapsulates the most ardent desires and aims of the perpetrators. People are being murdered, terrorized, made illegal, and hounded out of public life through political means by elected officials and the apparatus of state, whom themselves do not mince words. Historians are the ones who must take care with their words, and even they know when to say the word “quisling”.

TokenBoomer,

It is being debated.

Some legal scholars and transgender rights activists have argued this definition should be expanded to include transgender persons. Others have critiqued the term “transgender genocide” as inappropriate for modern Western contexts, arguing that current levels of discrimination and violence fail to reach the legal definition of genocide.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I’m glad it’s a subject among academics, that’s more or less as it should be. I am not bound by their findings in either case; the real world value of a “legal definition” in the international courts has been demonstrated to be of limited use to prevent or discourage genocide in any case; ask a Palestinian.

Cryophilia,

Which is not happening yet, although they want it to be.

S_204,

Are you claiming that not providing the medical care to transition is akin to deliberate killing?

Cuz even the most Liberal courts are going to struggle with that one…

shiroininja,

you and your sane logic

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Religous fundamentalists setting the stage to seize control of the nation and institute a authoritarian government to carry out a genocide?

Sounds serious!

So when are democrats dropping gun control considering this imminent threat?

Armed queers bash back.

SocialistRA.org

FiniteBanjo,

Statistically incorrect but he’s got the correct attitude.

EDIT: Just a bad headline, no surprise.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/97ff9a90-6368-471e-9ced-351b04c98c0c.png

BugKilla,
@BugKilla@lemmy.world avatar

There is one less bomb…so both sides are not equal.

Said ironically and factually.

whostosay,

That’s really weird because neither of these planes detail that indisputable fact that one party is currently and has been trying to install a dictator for about 6 years now.

Harbinger01173430,

…fabric is a thing. Is he Calling them things!?

bumphot,

I wish democrat politicians would stop with their propaganda on lemmy. Like it is anything new that some politician lies and pretends to care about minorities while funding the actual genocide. There classic liberal distraction tricks from more urgent issues don’t work on anyone who thinks for themselves.

markus99,

lol

wolfpack86,

“part of the fabric” not “the fabric”

I’m an ally, but at the end of the day let’s not over conflate statements. It doesn’t serve anyone a favor.

Over stating gives poor intentioned people room and also means that supporters relent.

“The fabric” should never apply to any group tbh.

Shadywack,
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

Or apply to all groups, but I agree, not to any one group.

Grant_M,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

LOVE POTUS Joe.

moon,

So generous of Biden to give Fox News something to cry 24/7 around the clock about.

bumphot,

That is part of the strategy of both parties for decades now, to talk about controversial issues that don’t affect our lives as much as wars and economy, so that we get busy arguing about these things instead of seeing that we have very important common goals as people vs the politicians. A classic divide and conquer strategy.

Emerald,

If there was a Joe Biden bingo card, “fabric of our nation” would be on it.

eldavi,

he needs (a) new speech writer(s)

DragonTypeWyvern,

It’s a thing with political messaging to keep the messages similar. Honestly it works pretty well with “fabric.” You can only have so many backbones, but you can weave new threads into fabric to make something beautiful, etc

theblueredditrefugee,

It’s just words

gmtom,

Please just STFU and let us (trnas people) have a brief distraction from all the hatred.

dandelion,
@dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m not sure how much solace we should take from inauthentic political posturing, but we should certainly try to use being a political football to our advantage (since we can’t help that we’ve been victimized this way, but we can try to make something of the national spotlight being put on us).

To that end I think it’s beneficial for us to raise our standards and demand more than just words from politicians claiming to be supportive allies. Biden wants to be seen as supporting trans folks? Well, we demand the VA cover gender affirming surgeries. That’s a specific transphobic VA policy that needs to be overturned, and Biden can show he’s an ally by doing something about it.

gmtom,

Yes, but appreciating a comment like this, especially in a political environment where a large portion of country, including a good chunk of Bidens voter base, are openly transphobic, does not mean we can’t also call for more substantial action.

Especially if we acknowledge that due the to the current makeup of the house and the senate, Biden is pretty much powerless to put though any pro-trans legislation, so really the best we can (realistically) hope for is a change in the narrative towards the positive.

And hell, it’s better than what we have in the UK where our “”“left wing”“”" leader refuses to support trans people.

assassin_aragorn,

Labour has straight up moved to the right of Democrats at this point which is crazy

Cryophilia,

Dunno which country you’re from, but there is no “Labour” party in America.

dandelion,
@dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply we shouldn’t still appreciate when the president of the United States calls trans people the “fabric of our nation”, I think the words themselves are undeniably good.

I was only trying to say we shouldn’t shut down criticism of those acts as realpolitik, especially if as a community we can possibly leverage that kind of criticism to help accomplish our own political ends.

It is bizarre to me that the UK has somehow slid even further right than the U.S. in some ways, considering the U.S. is somewhat known for that political brand (where our “left” is still right of the conservative Christian Democratic party in Germany).

captainlezbian,

But it’s words that not saying indicates that he’s not willing to keep fighting for us. And he has done things for us.

simplejack,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

Words matter

bumphot,

Politician’s words are worthless

simplejack,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

A large portion of the United States now believes the 2020 election was stolen, and that’s all due to words. Words have impact.

bumphot,

What I meant was that they are always lies. They don’t represent reality in any way. Biden doesn’t care about Trans people no more then Trump believes elections were stolen. They just say those lies to get people to support them and then they hurt those same people when they get what they want.

BigMacHole,

Just like when he SAID he supports Human Rights in Palestine!

bumphot,

Why are people downvoting you when you are 100% right.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

attaboy, Joe.. set the example that makes this Nation great.. i'm proud i voted for you..

bumphot,

You are going a bit too far with being proud, since he openly sidestepped congress to fund genocide in Gaza.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

if you voted for anyone else, you don't know what it means to be proud of your vote, so your opinion doesn't mean shit

bumphot,

You should never be proud of voting for someone, they are all crooks.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

you are a slave

bumphot,

?

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

exactly.. an ignorant slave, and you don't even realize it.. you don't know what it means to be proud of your vote, so you also don't know what it means to take responsibility for your vote.. if you have no responsibility for your vote, you are a slave..

bumphot,

Sorry mister educated high-class. Shame the poor slaves that are too stupid to fight for their rights. You as an educated high class society man should tell us poor slaves how we should vote for some rich morons that have only their rich pockets in interests. We, ignorant slaves, shouldn’t even be allowed to vote, if we can’t even be proud for voting for some idiot high-class fascist such as you.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

you're a slave because you're so reactionary.. i'm just a citizen, and you don't even qualify for that..

bumphot,

oh no, I am so hurt by your high-class educated words

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

peasants are always self conscious of their lack of education.. it makes them belligerent..

bumphot,

I highly respect peasants, workers and slaves. And would much rather be on their side of history then of some rich fascist snobs. PS: I assume you are a young kid in collage, so I will not participate in shaming you anymore. When you grow older you will understand how wrong your values are right now.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

ah yes, the honorable peasant, digging in the mud.. dig on, peasant..

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

I am glad you got to vote for the person that best represents you. Why not the rest of us as well?

Doing away with first past the post voting will allow people to vote third party with no spoiler effect. More people voting = more democratic votes.

Can someone explain why blue states are still using FPTP voting?

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

i got to vote for an honest man, who cares about his fellow Americans, and who makes friends all over the world.. and he makes all our enemies whine like little bitches..

Cryophilia,

Can someone explain why blue states are still using FPTP voting?

Because if only blue states get rid if FPTP and no red states, Republicans will gain a lot more power in government. They’d have a lock on the Presidency forever and possibly a permanent majority in both houses of Congress.

If all states did it, Democrats (and the new leftist coalition in general) would gain more power, but probably only a constitutional convention could force the red states to abandon FPTP.

bumphot,

I think this guy theodewere perfectly shows the classic liberal mindset in his insults towards me in the comments here and disdain for the poor and uneducated he has for no reason but to shame them. This is shows the true values of the liberals that pretend to care about the weak and being so highly upvoted it is clear that many agree, but don’t really want to be that open about it.

Cryophilia,

I really don’t care.

sugarfree,
@sugarfree@lemmy.world avatar

Hahaha what the fuck

markus99,

literally what I said lmao

chronicledmonocle,

All of the Fox News crowd are getting bent out of shape because it falls on the same day as Easter this year…can’t make this up.

hitmyspot,

You mean those people working on the Lords day?

perviouslyiner,

Day of the eggs hatching? Seems appropriate.

chronicledmonocle,

Because their sense of identity is as frail as an egg?

Gottem.

XTL,

knowyourmeme.com/memes/egg-transgender

captainlezbian,

Why are we celebrating men with two X chromosomes when we should be celebrating a man who was born to a virgin mother? He obviously wasn’t lgbt, he just convinced a bunch of men to ditch their wives and live in a traveling commune with him and no women.

But for real, they’re the ones whose day’s date changes.

Furbag,

If their religious holiday is incompatible with recognizing marginalized and vulnerable people in our society, then it’s a fucking shit religion.

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