larsmb, 4 months ago

@Mushroot @pluralistic Hence why so many options in that UX don't offer "No", but only "Less often" (which subsequently gets ignored).

Real consent? Not their strong side.

Rotten from the beginning.

HeliaXyana, 4 months ago

@Mushroot @pluralistic

And YouTube was originally a video spin off of "hot or not".

Like a lot of new technology, the internet had a pretty dubiously perverted start. Lets move on but never forget.

GhostOnTheHalfShell, 4 months ago

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dusnm, 3 months ago

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @HeliaXyana @Mushroot @pluralistic That's just not true. It's a myth. Pornography was readily available on Beta as well. VHS won because JVC realized that people cared way more about recording time than quality.

GhostOnTheHalfShell, 3 months ago

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dusnm, 3 months ago

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @HeliaXyana @Mushroot @pluralistic I think that's a gross oversimplification. Stop me if this isn't supposed to be a serious discussion, but to say pornography was a major reason for the success of the web alongside everything else that made the web great is misguided.

Yes, a lot of people consume pornography and sex sells, but it can't be "the" reason for the success of either VHS or the web.

pluralistic, 3 months ago

@dusnm @GhostOnTheHalfShell @HeliaXyana @Mushroot

Here's why it's a mistake to think that the sex trade's adoption of technology is due to technophilia:

https://pluralistic.net/2022/06/21/early-adopters/#sex-tech

RnDanger, 4 months ago

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @HeliaXyana @Mushroot @pluralistic
Beta was just too complicated to be financially competitive as a machine. They made porn for beta too, this story is just a myth.

GhostOnTheHalfShell, 4 months ago

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RnDanger, 4 months ago

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @HeliaXyana @Mushroot @pluralistic
The internal mechanics were insane though. There's a great video from @TechConnectify if you are interested to see more about it
https://youtu.be/_oJs8-I9WtA?si=5MH4MdjwzBPXGDSv