rysiek,
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The is growing fast!

Since start of June, Lemmy went from ~1000 (as reported on the-federation.info) to ~22k monthly active accounts:
https://the-federation.info/platform/73

Kbin went from ~200 (not a typo, two hundred), to ~31k monthly active accounts:
https://the-federation.info/platform/184

I would risk a hot-take that Threadiverse today is where Fediverse was in April 2022: some infra exist, some long-established communities are there, and there is now sudden popular interest, stress-testing the network.

thisismissem,
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@rysiek nah, it's more akin to Mastodon circa 2017, these two software products are early stage alphas and prototypes, and lack the features to support a large userbase safely.

rysiek,
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@thisismissem you're probably right. My hot take might have been a bit too hot-takey.

Any specific features you would say are missing the most?

thisismissem,
@thisismissem@hachyderm.io avatar

@rysiek I mean, see my own post on the moderation tooling in threadiverse software, or this: https://post.lurk.org/@rra/110554178391138039

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

@thisismissem thanks!

rysiek,
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The number of new people with accounts is less important, I feel.

What is more important now is how many new instances spring up to spread the load? How many people commit to being moderators and otherwise tending to their communities' needs?

is being stress-tested.

But it also has a better support network in the wider .

For example, experienced fedi admins are deploying new Lemmy and Kbin instances. Other projects help out too, for example:
https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/110548633829056225

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

But what I find the most interesting and potentially game-changing, is that this is probably not just a move of people only using a given platform.

I am going to wager a bet a lot of long-term volunteer are joining the . :blobcathappy:

This means that there are potentially a lot of new people with the experience and willingness to perform perhaps the most demanding and the most thankless of tasks: community moderation.

That's super-important. That excites me. 👀

trebach,

@rysiek The people most impacted by the changes effective July 1 are moderators, so I can see a lot of them leaving and the enshittification accelerating as there are fewer people around to ban the karma-farming bots

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

I say this is "April'22" for because this is its first real stress-test.

There's going to be a lot of things that break (kbin.social was off-federation for days), a lot of things that people find less than great.

That's okay.

Once the 🌊 passes, we can take stock and build resilience for the future.

There might be another big wave (maybe around Reddit IPO). There might not. Either way "threadi" will be ready for more sustainable growth.

jdp23,

@rysiek good thread! For the itself I think it was maybe closer to April 2017 than 2022 - with kbin in the nascent role of Mastodon. One big positive difference is the broader fediverse is much farther along so experienced admins popped up instances like blahaj.lemmy.zone, lemmy.world, fedia.io that could help absorb the influx. Totally agreed though on taking stock and building on it!

slavistapl,

@rysiek Thought it would be 10k new active users in very optimistic scenario, turns out I was fortunately mistaken!

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

@slavistapl yeah, it's through the roof and there is no sign of it stopping.

It will stop at some point, the infrastructure and communities will get stretched to a point they will need some time to take stock and regroup. And that's fine.

slavistapl,

@rysiek the number of instances, not the number of users/instance counts - however the latter takes precedence because note that even those non-technical are jumping on the train

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