eniko, (edited )
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Making a commercially successful game

Expectation: 50% making a good game, 50% marketing

Reality: 10% making a good game, 90% marketing

And before anyone protests, I would like to point out Super Bernie World is my most successful game, but definitely nowhere near my best game. Being memetic isn't about inherent quality, that's marketing

eniko,
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Honestly I feel like 10% is being too kind to the "make a good game" part

elrohir,
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@eniko perhaps its 1% "make game" and the "good" part takes the other 9% of work?

eniko,
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@elrohir I feel like the goodness of a game doesn't actually have much of any effect until some critical mass of visibility brought on by marketing. Once visible, a good game can make a game far more commercially successful but it might barely factor into things before that

VilhelmMattson,
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@eniko @elrohir someone roughly likened it to a lottery, making a game gets you a ticket and allows you to play, making a good game might get you a few extra tickets, but doesn't in itself affect the draw.

eniko,
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@VilhelmMattson @elrohir every wishlist is a ticket to the lottery and the only way to get enough of them (before launch) is marketing

kaynSD,
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@eniko 1% Make good game. 9% debug said game.

tinstargames,
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@eniko honestly 10% is too high there

eniko,
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@tinstargames yeah after i posted it i realized i was being far too generous

zanagb,
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@eniko and yet, somehow, the fact it's a politics meme game for some other country I don't even live in means I legit can't get the steam version of your other game. For Kitsune Zero has a strict dependency on the meme game I got no intent on having or playing.

So it may have been successful but wonder how many people bought it just to access KZ, or all the people who ignored it because... The obvious.

eniko,
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@zanagb i'm confused as to why you can't get the steam version of KZ (which is also standalone on itch.io), it's not like you have to play the SBW portion of it

zanagb,
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@eniko

It's not very conceptually hard to understand.

I can't, because in order to play conveniently (w/o dealing with the endless sea of charityware that my itch account has become) I have to add some meme game about a politician that's not from either of our countries, have it permanently take a slot on my library in order to access KZ, and be the thing that appears on the "now playing" status when all i want is the completely unrelated game.

This could've been made a separate entry.

eniko,
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@zanagb it could've been, but for a very long list of reasons of which valve is the cause, it couldn't have been if i wanted to have a stable income

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