davidrevoy, (edited )
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What is the hashtag that you would recommend artists to use to say that their art is not created with AI?

oblomov,
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@davidrevoy I recommend NOT tagging it in any machine-recognizable way. As the Internet gets flooded by AI-generated content, funding material that can be used to train models becomes more and more difficult. Tagging it in an easily recognizable way makes it easier to be found and fed into the next generation models.
I put a more detailed argument about this here
http://wok.oblomov.eu/tecnologia/not-by-ai/
although I think the machine is down ATM 8-/

artologica,
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@davidrevoy say what the medium is, like #painting or #drawing

scopelmatt,
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@davidrevoy I think that this might be counterproductive, as it might create an easy-to-mine hashtag for AIs to be trained upon.

davidrevoy,
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@scopelmatt True.

JohnShirley2023,
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@davidrevoy the trouble is, people use AI to make art so they will list themselves as "a human artist" supposedly working in the medium of AI. It would take a long time to explain to these people, in terms they could understand, why AI isn't a medium. It's just big buckets of plagiarism.

enduser,

@davidrevoy I win!

another_katt,

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  • davidrevoy,
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    @another_katt Hey, I think I have the same result at heart and in mind, no worry. I'll see if I can post a little debrief article about how it changed my mind on the topic later this week.

    another_katt,

    @davidrevoy

    oh good! :blobcat: I hope you will post your debrief.

    glutfuchs,
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    @davidrevoy I think #HumanMade is better than #HumanArt . Perhaps #HumanCrafted is an option?

    rival,
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    @davidrevoy I think #HumanMade seems more precise, but also, all AI is human-made, not just the software and hardware, but even the data for training and the alignment during that training, all that is human-made. So, #NotAI could be more rigorous, but less human-relevant.
    Is it important provided that the audience can't tell the difference between both cases?
    ...

    myrmidon,

    @davidrevoy if you want one tag, let’s do like roman artists #homoquidammefecit

    myrmidon,
    Fakepivot,

    @davidrevoy is't AI human made?, like one of the replay, i would say #FuckAIArt

    eldadoinquieto,
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    erininstereo,

    @davidrevoy Personally, I would go with #FuckAIArt but TBH either poll option works fine

    yildo,
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    @davidrevoy
    #NoAI seems popular

    phurd,

    @davidrevoy boutique

    aziz,

    @davidrevoy sweat, tears, and blood made.

    lienrag,

    @davidrevoy

    En français on dit Intelligence Artificielle (AI, quoi) donc j'imagine que le hashtag devrait être du genre "IA ! IA ! Shub-Niggurath !"...

    valvin,
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    kris,
    @kris@outmo.de avatar

    @davidrevoy #HandMade ? Since hands are a relatively unique feature of primates and AIs are bad at drawing them? :blobcatgooglyshrug:

    morph,

    @davidrevoy #HumanArt sounds more like it would be art depicting humans. Like portraits and so on I guess...

    metaning,
    @metaning@mastodon.social avatar

    @davidrevoy We have a word “Art” : that which is made by a human, provides aesthetic value, and offers no practical utility. This word belongs to a highly-trained trade, and should not be retreated from, or allowed to be diluted.

    Brushstrokes by an Elephant: not made by a human = not Art.
    Aesthetically pleasing sculptural chair: has practical utility = not Art*.
    AI-Generated output: see Elephant.

    *We have a word for this, a technical, non-derisive term. That word is “Craft”.

    x_cli,

    @davidrevoy How about "#original"? It conveys that generative AI are not creating anything new. The issue with HumanMade is that AI are human made too, and transitively, their creations are human made too.

    davidrevoy,
    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org avatar

    @x_cli Right. HumanMade is definitely embracing a too-large meaning this way. Thanks for sharing.

    Takiro,
    @Takiro@meow.social avatar

    @davidrevoy
    HumanArt in my case sounds more like the opposite of FurryArt. HumanMade reminds me of things like human made climate change or human made garbage patch. NoAI still seems the best for me, also safes on characters for posts.

    davidrevoy,
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    @Takiro Good points, I never thought about that. Thank you.

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