GaryRLundberg,
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We’re in big trouble. Netanyahu’s government is in league with the world’s genocidal authoritarians. It makes little difference whether it’s implicit or explicit, useful idiots or active agents. Many active measures hope to precipitate and stoke violence in America. I hope protesters can be steadfastly peaceful.

Netanyahu vows to invade Rafah 'with or without a deal' as cease-fire talks with Hamas continue

https://apnews.com/article/f5e14fd176d69f9c4e23b48f3ab5af6a

RememberUsAlways,
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@GaryRLundberg

If the are in , does have the right to use any methods of rescue?

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@israel

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  • GaryRLundberg,
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    @FrankFrank @RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel

    Yes. “Glorious war”. However asymmetrical. With massive global influence operations layered on, raging. Obliteration vs embedded terrorists with hostages. Even now there will be generations of discovery about the autocracies in this war. Psychopathic brutality and hostage taking vs unprecedented civilian killing and infrastructure/societal decimation. Grenades vs 2000 pound bombs. Genocide all.

    RememberUsAlways,
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    @GaryRLundberg @FrankFrank
    A century has not been recorded in which Jerusalem was NOT under siege.
    I cannot diminish genocide by blanket comparison to 3000 + years of global conflict. I understand your position is focused on peace but I also understand that war is not genocide.
    @palestine @israel

    GaryRLundberg,
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    @RememberUsAlways @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    War and genocide cohabit “glorious war”.

    Good point about the forever history of siege in the land of Palestine and Israel. Of course empires have always had a heavy hand in that history. I suspect repression and genocide have also.

    When you take it in context of Palestine being almost completely eliminated since 1948 you can’t help but think war + settler colonialism apartheid is a culprit.

    RememberUsAlways,
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    @GaryRLundberg @FrankFrank
    Why stop at 1948?
    Hebrew is one of the world's ancient languages dating back 3000 + years. To suggest colonial narrative by Israel in the context of world conflict is disingenuous.
    https://www.palquest.org/en/overallchronology?show=intro
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    GaryRLundberg,
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    @RememberUsAlways @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    Yes. I was only framing the recent history of Israel since WWII. The most recent generations. Colonial genocide happens over generations or less, not millennia.

    Even if all history and origin by indigenous occupation and religion are claimed as the heritage of a place does not validate slaughter inflicted today.

    RememberUsAlways,
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    @GaryRLundberg
    We did not have the effects of modern terrorists on past global conflict. War today is more brutal because our standards for the treatment of humanity has declined with the acceptance of terrorist organizations.
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    GaryRLundberg,
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    @RememberUsAlways @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    Is it terrorists? Or, massive communications media that enables the reach of terror and divisive bias, implicit and explicit?

    I think humanity is living a horrendous and dangerous time of limited ability to digest and understand all we are exposed to.

    As for brutality, I think it’s always been inherent among us. Probably ebbs and flows. We always make it more mechanized and condensed though.

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  • GaryRLundberg,
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    @FrankFrank @RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel

    Propaganda; damed if you do, damned you don’t. Was/is there only one genocide?

    “Whereas proponents of the singularity thesis regard the making of any comparisons as a blasphemous mockery of the Holocaust’s victims, its opponents raising an analogy to the accusation of Holocaust denial argue that the singularity thesis amounts to a denial of all other cases of genocide.”

    RememberUsAlways,
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    @GaryRLundberg

    History doesn't care about our bias.
    @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    GaryRLundberg,
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    @RememberUsAlways @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    Yet, history includes just yesterday. Saturated in the life and death of today. So, I’m afraid bias travels across, through, and over time. Inherited and handed down. Replayed by new actors.

    Scmurcott,
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    @RememberUsAlways @GaryRLundberg @FrankFrank @palestine @israel the European Jewish citizens were displaced and moved to Palestine because of fascism in Europe. There were plenty of Jewish, Muslim and Christian people already living there before the occupation and the atrocities of 1948.

    RememberUsAlways, (edited )
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    @Scmurcott @GaryRLundberg @FrankFrank
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    The War of 1948 was the acknowledgement of state status for Israel.

    GaryRLundberg,
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    @Scmurcott @RememberUsAlways @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    Yes. Many competing religion origin stories. Judaism, then Christianity, then Islam. Over ridden often by the empires of democratic republics, kings and pharaohs. Guess not a lot has changed?

    My understanding is Zionism — a nationalist movement to live in their indigenous homeland — predates fascism. Immigration and settlement began after the failed Russian revolution in 1905.

    RememberUsAlways,
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    @GaryRLundberg

    Jewish communities in Europe were made scapegoats of the plague. They were accused of deliberately poisoning wells and thus causing the plague, and such associations between plague and Jewish communities led to in various parts of Europe.

    https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2020/03/covid_impact_nukhet_varlik.php






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    GaryRLundberg,
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    @RememberUsAlways @Scmurcott @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    It’s unfortunate, blaming and attacking “the other” is inherently the human animal’s means of “justice” it seems. Something “leaders” have always used to accumulate and wield power? I doubt we out grow it in our lifetimes.

    RememberUsAlways,
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    @GaryRLundberg
    The sun shines for all of us. Someday, humanity will realize this simple suggestion.

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  • GaryRLundberg,
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    @FrankFrank @RememberUsAlways @Scmurcott @palestine @israel

    Perfect share. Thanks! I watched on C-SPAN. I’ve been following Dr Snyder closely since 2016. And, was attentive before that.

    dibi58,
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    @RememberUsAlways @GaryRLundberg @Scmurcott @FrankFrank @palestine @israel

    just like reagan people with aids ...

    they also said that cats are symbols of the devil ... just like masks now ...

    superstition is a bad mental disease ...
    🤷‍♀️

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  • jstatepost,
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    @FrankFrank
    🥥 Please say more about this map, Frank, and if you can provide link to more information.
    Thank YOU. 🥥

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    @FrankFrank
    🥥 Thank YOU, Frank.
    Eye truly appreciate that you took the time to add links to your original post 🥥

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