eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

as someone who has lived in both the US and EU i think the standard date formats are confusing as fuck and everyone should switch to ISO 8601 yyyy-mm-dd

eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

oh the date on this is 06/05/2024? that's amazing shame i'll never know when that is

Craigp,
@Craigp@mastodon.social avatar

@eniko we should use A-L for months, obviously. E6 or 6E are both fine!

marten,
@marten@mstdn.social avatar

@Craigp two issues with the latter:

  1. you wouldn't want to sort all 6ths of the months together.
  2. A-G is already used by supermarkets here to indicate day of week for fresh produce. Eg 32B was produced on tuesday of the 32nd week of the year.
Craigp,
@Craigp@mastodon.social avatar

@marten I'd rather confuse super markets than everyone else!

St1ka,
@St1ka@peoplemaking.games avatar

@eniko Yep, I've started adding the month to the description because there's no clear way.

Personally, I think Year/Month/day is the ideal solution, but seems neither europe nor the US agree lol

foo,
@foo@fosstodon.org avatar

@eniko You have an international chain of stores which is famously 100% private label. You literally control the label and could use ISO 8601. THIS SIGN SHOULD NOT EXIST.

eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

@foo i love the fucken asterisk which makes the entire thing redundant

Canageek,
@Canageek@wandering.shop avatar

@eniko this this this this

there's a reason I write a note at the top of every log book telling people to use this date format because as a Canadian University we get a buttload of people up from the US and I never know which one any given person is going to use and it can matter if I'm trying to figure out when a problem on an instrument started

xgranade,
@xgranade@wandering.shop avatar

@Canageek @eniko I often write the month out in long form just to make sure there's no ambiguity (e.g. 8 May 2024), but I get that's far from practical in many cases. It would be so nice if we 8601 was more widely used.

Canageek,
@Canageek@wandering.shop avatar

@xgranade @eniko the advantage of using ISO is if you're using them as file or folder names sorting by date is really slow, but sorting by file name is super fast and it will sort automatically if you use ISO

TheEnbyWitch,
@TheEnbyWitch@peoplemaking.games avatar

@eniko having moved to the US recently, the switch from DD/MM to MM/DD certainly was and still is confusing

eniko,
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

@TheEnbyWitch i wish i could say it gets better but i feel like for me it never did

IPmonger,
@IPmonger@hachyderm.io avatar

@eniko ISO 8601 for dates and all computer systems should use UTC by default with a localization for “friendly” display.

pies,
@pies@qoto.org avatar

@IPmonger @eniko I think there are exceptions to the UTC rule, like anything in Polish should just show Polish time, otherwise it would be utterly confusing. Maybe timezone or UTC time on hover. Polish people are not used to timezones.

jonulrich,
@jonulrich@peoplemaking.games avatar

or perhaps everyone should switch to unix epoch time, date formatting algorithms are already cursed as it is. Besides, who needs days, months or years when number goes up?

Njord,
@Njord@peoplemaking.games avatar

@eniko You can use context clues. if it's a Website, then even that is unreliable, since, a decent number of websites here use US date format

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