QasimRashid,
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A Republican got offended I called the founding U.S. citizens "colonizers,"—rebuking me that “the original 13 colonies were beacons of freedom.”

I asked him to repeat that part...slowly. Apparently "colonies" is respectful—but calling those who built colonies "colonizers" is not.🤔

Also, I'm sure the enslaved, Native Americans, women, and anyone not a WASP wealthy land owner would likely disagree with that whole "beacon of freedom" part.

benazirs_blog_,

@QasimRashid asalamualaykum actually it is because they are stupid 🙄 it is something in that addled brain of theirs

gui_silva,
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@QasimRashid not to mention the imperialistic atittude towards other countries, these days. How did Haway become part os the US?

joeross,
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@QasimRashid idk, except for the land grabs, genocides (plural) and cultural erasure, there was probably a lot of freedom!

susankitchens,
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@QasimRashid
“Apparently "colonies" is respectful…”

Calls to mind this, on “Respect”—

‘Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”
and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”…’

Stimmy Abby, Tumblr:
https://bit.ly/MeaningsOfRespect

GreenSkyOverMe,
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@QasimRashid "I asked him to repeat that part ... slowly" 😂

paintchips,

@QasimRashid you would typically refer to the residents of a colony as colonists; colonizers isn't necessarily interchangeable (like, bee colonizers, leper colonizers, Mars colonizers, cell colonizers etc). Sort of interesting linguistically when you'd sub one for the other.

JoeQuinlan,
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@QasimRashid

The "beacons of freedom" were built on a foundation of genocide, slavery and the exploitation of labor.
Rich men who didn't want to pay their taxes were the leaders of the American revolution. Many of them were slave owners.

Anya_Adora,

@QasimRashid I still find it ironic that i spent my teen years in NH, the State with the motto 'Live Free Or Die'.

I knew i was trans, i knew i wasn't straight. I didn't come out until i moved at age 19 to the Pacific Northwest / Seattle because reality is, the only part of that slogan in NH that applied to me was the 'Or Die' part if i came out from how i felt living there.

bgrinter,
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phine1,

@QasimRashid We are all every single one of us descended from refugees from climate, competition and general lousy neighbors.

heafnerj,
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@QasimRashid Republicans have an infantile view of freedom.

rdfranke,
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@QasimRashid The offended should read:

  • The 1619 Project, Nikole Hannah-Jones
  • An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States, Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz

Then they can revisit their thoughts of the US colonizers being beacons of freedom.

William3rd,
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@QasimRashid What does this idiot you are dealing with think the colony founders should be called?

lemondoor,

@QasimRashid
Conversation that never happened for $5, please.

Zekethedrifter,

@QasimRashid weren’t some of the “colonies” explicit penal colonies? like “Mary”land to lock up Catholics?

lbSterling,

@QasimRashid but all the people that voted at the time said it was great!

AndyKim,

@QasimRashid
A Republican means MAGA, as Trump and his team of racists have completely taken over the GOP.

Talking to a MAGA will be a frustrating event, as they’re not normal imo.

carlosgarcesv,

@QasimRashid Hi all! Just wandering around this maze. I like to read and write about politics, history and philosophy. Any suggestions of cool profiles to follow?

aredridel,
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@QasimRashid Massachusetts, "beacon of freedom" was the first colony to legalize slavery. (as in, wrote down how it should work and enforced it)

Increase Mather (an early president of Harvard University, and father of Cotton Mather, who was involved in some of the Salem Witch Trials) was a slave owner.

It's slavery, colonization, religious conversion and force from the earliest days

JonSparks,
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@QasimRashid You might have expected them at least to know how the English language works.

robcornelius,

@QasimRashid

A lot of the "Pilgrim Fathers" left England so they could carry on persecuting people they didn't like and England was a bit anti-persecution at the time. History say they left to escape persecution.

When the political landscape of England changed for a while during the Civil War a lot of people came back to England from the colonies so they could persecute people in England once more.

slcw,
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@QasimRashid They can't tolerate their manufactured worldview being confronted with reality.

osintscrape,

@QasimRashid you should see Texans heads explode when i explain how it was illegal immigrants to Texas being the reason for the Texas revolution. Then to add spice, remind them how the Alamo is a bastion of white supremacy. Heads fucking explode.

anishinaabe,

@QasimRashid bahahahahaahahaha 'beacons of freedom'! how i wish ppl understood that this continent was born and bred on wyt supremacy after the king of the vatican/catholic pope said it was ok to enslave and colonize. dyk kanada's first p.m. bragged about starving the first nations; that the first nations needed written permission to leave their land & communities, even for the day? wyt ppl like using pejorative terms, they call our communities "reserves" and call us 'savages' & 'indians'

Lyle,
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@QasimRashid I’m sure the early Jamestown settlers would have loved to learn that they were all beacons of freedom. I assume they are referring to ? https://historicjamestowne.org/history/history-of-jamestown/the-starving-time/

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